Biske94

Q: El Capitan or Mavericks?

Ladies and gentleman, I am in little dilemma here. I can't decide should i stay on El Capitan or revert back to Mavericks.So because of that i am asking you for your opinion. For me El Capitan is good, its fast on my Macbook Pro 2010, I don't have any problem, it does its thing.


But why then i am deciding  about those two OS? Its because I like the UI of Mavericks, it has some unique look, and since i have older macbook i think it will do faster and better. But it doesn't have its features like El Capitan.


I use this Macbook for  work for my college, for my web design programing (HTML, CSS, JS, jQuery). Those of you who used Mavericks and have experience with it, what can you say about this? And those who program whats your opinion about this?  Everyone's opinion is welcome. Thank you!

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.4)

Posted on Nov 2, 2015 12:28 PM

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  • by K Shaffer,Helpful

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Nov 3, 2015 6:04 AM in response to Biske94
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    Nov 3, 2015 6:04 AM in response to Biske94

    If the computer shipped with Mavericks, you may be able to re-install the original OS X version

    and its applications from the App Store; it would be downloaded & take time...

     

    Given adequate free or unused hard drive capacity, you would have other options to restore

    and use the older OS X without erasing the newer one.

     

    An idea would be, if you can restore the older OS X, have a partition for it, and be able to boot

    the newer OS X and older one from the same computer. Some users chose to install the new

    system on a separate partition so as to keep older applications in their native environs and be

    able to run them without chance of unsupported third-party apps, or without buying new versions.

     

    There would be nothing untoward about restoring to an older OS X - if the computer shipped with it.

    Otherwise, you cannot download the Mavericks from the Mac App Store because it's not there...

     

    In any event, good luck in this matter!

  • by JimmyCMPIT,Helpful

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT Nov 3, 2015 6:04 AM in response to Biske94
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    Nov 3, 2015 6:04 AM in response to Biske94

    you could backup, split the drive into two partitions and boot to either 10.9 or 10.11 provided you have installers for both on some bootable media, then restore your data.

    if you're not running into issues and your software needs don't seem to be incompatible with 10.11 and the UI is the only issue I don't think you'll see much of a difference in performance on 10.9 and 10.11. I'm using a 2010 Mac Pro for mostly 3D and Creative Cloud work and haven't noticed one OS is any slower than the other at this time.

  • by Biske94,

    Biske94 Biske94 Nov 2, 2015 2:19 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Nov 2, 2015 2:19 PM in response to K Shaffer

    Well i didnt get shiped, cuz Apple doesnt ship for Serbia. Also i bought that Mac on this summer so it was used. I mean when i bought it it had Maverick on it. I know that I can just go through internet recovery and get Mavericks or to download and boot a usb. What is your expression about Maverick?

  • by Biske94,

    Biske94 Biske94 Nov 2, 2015 2:20 PM in response to JimmyCMPIT
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    Nov 2, 2015 2:20 PM in response to JimmyCMPIT

    So you are saying that your Mac aint slower on El Capitan and it is doing work just like on Maverick?

  • by JimmyCMPIT,Solvedanswer

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT Nov 3, 2015 5:57 AM in response to Biske94
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    Nov 3, 2015 5:57 AM in response to Biske94

    it all seems to be the same between mavericks and El Capitan but my system while being old is still essentially a halfway decent workstation (dual quad core xeon and 64 GB RAM) except when I'm using Adobe Creative Cloud 2015 and it hesitates when I use the menus. I didn't have Cloud on Mavericks so I can't compare.  If you're using older software that works you may wish to say on 10.9 or backup everything before updating to make sure you can still work. El Cap is smoother for me than Yosemite but Yosemite was clunkier than Mavericks for me so it's about even. Most of what I do when I'm not tech support is 3D design and my antiquated ATI card is still good and my CPU's get a workout so my experience has been good. I did run into issues with some music software, and I looked at the company page for answers and they had posted 10.11 broke some of the functionality, they were asking Apple for help with 10.11.1 and then updated that to say it sort of works but they were not satisfied. What does that mean? I think it means Apple did make changes that Developers were trying to fix on their end but couldn't quite get it in time or Apple changed something that's really got some developers baffled as we saw with MS 2016.

    If it ain't broke don't fix it is what we say over here. Mavericks is one of the more stable OS X flavors but there will be no more updates for it, it's a finished product. El Capitan is still new, there is likely a public 10.11.2 soon so it could get better or worse.

    What are the benefits of each and what are the caveats? Make a list and see which side is longer - and while you do that backup anyway!

  • by Biske94,

    Biske94 Biske94 Nov 3, 2015 6:04 AM in response to Biske94
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    Nov 3, 2015 6:04 AM in response to Biske94

    I mean, i have 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo | 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 | NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB, it runs pretty good on El Capitan. I was in dilema cuz Mavericks got that look and all.  But thanks for your opinion.

  • by JimmyCMPIT,

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT Nov 3, 2015 6:23 AM in response to Biske94
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    Nov 3, 2015 6:23 AM in response to Biske94

    if you have the funds RAM is relatively inexpensive. If your mac can be upgraded you would likely get improvement from adding more RAM. The limits are with the model and year and it would benefit you in any OS you decide to go with.

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Nov 3, 2015 9:26 AM in response to Biske94
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    Nov 3, 2015 9:26 AM in response to Biske94

    The model MacBook Pro7.1  (13-inch?) circa 2010 model would have shipped with a version

    of OS X 10.6.3 or 10.6.4 on original DVD media specific to that computer, when new...

    {Usually when resold, the unit should be reverted back to this OS X & that DVD included.}

     

    If your model MacBook Pro6.2 is a 15-inch and not the 13-inch display, the total memory or

    RAM upgrade would be limited to 8GB, or two 4-GB chips of the same spec listed below.

     

    So, Memory or RAM specifications suggest the aftermarket total upgrade capacity in 13-

    inch model can be 16GB, when both slots on the logic board see equal 8GB chips. In this

    model, not in the 15-inch, the standard RAM is shared with graphics; in the 15-inch model

    the computer uses a different graphic processor. See specs based on your build model.

     

    According to MacTracker database (available as free app from http://mactracker.ca) the model

    7.1 MB/Pro shares the RAM with the graphic chip, so an upgrade would allow more RAM to be

    available to run graphics as needed. The specification for the RAM or memory, is:

     

    Maximum Memory    16 GB (2.4 GHz Actual) 8 GB (Apple)

    Memory Slots    2 - 204-pin PC3-8500 (1066 MHz) DDR3 SO-DIMM

     

    • MacBook Pro 13" Mid 2010 - View Memory Options - OWC macsales

    This company also offers other replacement parts, upgrade SSD & etc.

     

    • MacBook Pro: How to remove or install memory -- Apple Support

     

    My experience with Mavericks 10.9(.5) is limited to the past 10 months or so, and not full

    time; the computer I bought included 10.9 as it shipped from Apple with Mavericks yet

    since it was new-old-stock, nobody could tell me prior to purchase which OS X was inside.

    Once bought, I had access to the serial number and did some research by serial # lookup.

     

    My other, older Macs mostly use Leopard OS X 10.5.8, one is a first model MacBook 1.83GHz

    coreduo 13-inch; it could use Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 if purchased. The others are G4 PPC

    models from before 2006, and their upper limit in OS X is set by their architecture and age. In

    many ways, Snow Leopard is a great system to leave a vintage early Intel-mac, as standalone.

     

    {This model bought could have had one of three different OS X, based on build year model.

    My choice in computer was based on the ability to upgrade the physical memory chips and

    also the hard disk drive, the clock battery and some other basic features, as a last model

    in the series which allowed memory chips to be replaced by the user. Mavericks is OK but

    this and later OS X versions prefer more RAM; when it cannot be supplied, a fast upgrade

    option would be to upgrade to an SSD and move away from slower rotational hard drives.}

     

    Hopefully your experience will be good and if you save an installer for Mavericks, it may be

    used to re-install to the computer or a separate partition. Otherwise, you would be unable to

    buy or re-download from the Mac App Store because Mavericks is no longer available. And

    usually an upgrade to a later OS X relates your Apple ID to the App Store and the system's

    future access to software upgrade/update. If you were able to personalize the OS X 10.9

    installation, there would be less issue in re-installing it from your Purchases in App Store.

    However, some have tried to re-install after an upgrade to find it difficult or impossible later.

     

    In any event...

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by Biske94,

    Biske94 Biske94 Nov 3, 2015 10:48 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    Nov 3, 2015 10:48 AM in response to K Shaffer

    Hmm there is a way of internet recovery and i could download but nah, i am going to stay on El Capitan. Thank you friend