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Q: Mouse support for iPad pro

Will the iPad Pro have mouse support?

 

Something I would love to see and heard months back it might support, b

iPad, iOS 9.1

Posted on Nov 2, 2015 4:42 PM

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  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Aug 2, 2016 6:13 AM in response to ksuuttywxw
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    Aug 2, 2016 6:13 AM in response to ksuuttywxw

    ksuuttywxw wrote:

     

    https://youtu.be/1zPYW6Ipgok

     

    Here is apples new ad for the iPad pro.  I know this has been beaten to death but certainly looks like they are saying 'iPad pro' can replace your laptop.

    Have you noticed that no Apple computers come with a mouse anymore? And haven't for several years?

  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Aug 2, 2016 6:25 AM in response to ksuuttywxw
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    Aug 2, 2016 6:25 AM in response to ksuuttywxw

    ksuuttywxw wrote:

     

    https://youtu.be/1zPYW6Ipgok

     

    Here is apples new ad for the iPad pro.  I know this has been beaten to death but certainly looks like they are saying 'iPad pro' can replace your laptop.

    For some people, it is proving to be a replacement for their laptop, depending on needs and type of usage. And that has nothing to do with the presence nor absence of mouse support. Many people happily use the iPad Pro as designed and currently sold yet do indeed claim it has replaced, or largely replaced their need for a laptop.

     

    Many people use other touch screen devices without mouse support for their computing needs. While I understand some people may wish for or prefer a conventional mouse, others get along just fine without it. If you need or want a conventional mouse, then an iPad is not the device for you.

     

    But having or not having support for a conventional mouse has nothing inherently to do with whether a particular computing device may or may not replace desktop or laptop functionality for any given user.

  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen Aug 2, 2016 7:20 AM in response to ksuuttywxw
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    Aug 2, 2016 7:20 AM in response to ksuuttywxw

    I know this has been beaten to death but certainly looks like they are saying 'iPad pro' can replace your laptop.

     

    And yet... you are back.

     

    To be accurate, they use the phrase computer. Not laptop. Several times actually.

     

    Not once have they said replace.

     

    Again, Apple is attempting to move "computing" forward. To a time without mice. On account of the pencil and the touchscreen and the other input technologies that have surpassed the mouse.

     

    Again, not replaced.

     

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    What is your end game?

     

    No soft spot for 8" floppies? Firewire? Dial-up internet?

  • by murphdawg9734,

    murphdawg9734 murphdawg9734 Aug 2, 2016 8:14 AM in response to ksuuttywxw
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    Aug 2, 2016 8:14 AM in response to ksuuttywxw

    ksuuttywxw, like you I see Apple as marketing the iPad Pro as a PC replacement (well documented in Phil Schiller's 50 Million old pc's to replace comment in last fall's keynote).

     

    I like to think of Steve Jobs' comment that there are cars and trucks and they have different purposes.  Steve conveniently forgot the SUV category which combines cars and trucks so nicely that you can now buy SUVs in every size imaginable.  People like flexibility and UTILITY.  That's why they sell so very well (gas prices notwithstanding).  Try and imagine a car company that doesn't sell an SUV.  Would the biggest car company try and compete without it?  I think not.

     

    So I would posit that the pc market has it right with 2in1's or detachables (the SUV of computing devices).  Apple continues to fiddle while Rome burns on this issue.  While I would agree that the iPad is meant to be a device that transcends the PC, I would simultaneously argue that to be transcendent, you need to not just equal the capability of the existing device (PC), but transcend it.  And Apple with iPad is almost there too.  If you had a file system, ability to save several docs at the same time, and use a pointing device (I prefer trackpads, and yes there is a very limited one built into the iPad keyboard which can't interact with a spreadsheet), then and only then would have a truly transcendent device (and these key features are operating system issues, the apps exist but are very weak implementations).

     

    It's so easy to implement both, that it just makes sense to do it already.  Minor enhancements can make all the difference.  And this is no concession.  This is where we are heading.  SUVs are the 2in1's .. even Steve would have been forced to agree eventually.  Meanwhile where is the innovation?  A watch?  A keyboard that gets power from the ipad.  That's about it really.  I know because I buy a ton of Apple gear because it works elegantly and reliably.  Why does my favorite tech manufacturer have to miss out on the logical evolution of the personal computer?  Man, if this is just fear of cannibalizing already shrinking macbook sales, then God do we have a problem.  Welcome to the future.  Steve Jobs, we barely knew ye.

     

    Note... bought an HP Spectre x2 12T CTO.  Amazing 2in1, and the trackpad and touchscreen are just about up to the level of the iPad.  Yes, they've been given enough time to do it.  I'm keeping the iPad Pro for now (bought the best and all accessories), but I actually think my conscience is saying get rid of it while it still has value.  Costs much less than the iPad Pro and bests it in almost every category (not speakers, not battery (but close).

  • by TheOnlyCyberWizard,

    TheOnlyCyberWizard TheOnlyCyberWizard Aug 2, 2016 8:19 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Aug 2, 2016 8:19 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    That's incorrect though? You could buy a new iMac and it comes packed in with a Magic Mouse 2.

  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Aug 2, 2016 8:47 AM in response to murphdawg9734
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    Aug 2, 2016 8:47 AM in response to murphdawg9734

    I disagree with the 2in1 assessment. IMO, they make for the worst of both worlds. I have a Lenovo Yoga 900 and it's a less than ideal laptop and a horrible tablet.

  • by murphdawg9734,

    murphdawg9734 murphdawg9734 Aug 2, 2016 9:20 AM in response to murphdawg9734
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    Aug 2, 2016 9:20 AM in response to murphdawg9734

    I just had a comment removed because it truly was "speculative".  My apologies. It was meant in jest, but it offended the sensibilities of some Apple followers.  This is forbidden in Apple Support Communities.  I suppose this apology may be removed as well, but I'll give it a try.  I'm in favor of Apple staying great, thats all.  That being said, I hope you caught it for the 60 seconds it was there. 

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Aug 2, 2016 10:50 AM in response to murphdawg9734
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    Aug 2, 2016 10:50 AM in response to murphdawg9734

    murphdawg9734 wrote:

     

    I just had a comment removed because it truly was "speculative".  My apologies. It was meant in jest, but it offended the sensibilities of some Apple followers.  This is forbidden in Apple Support Communities.  I suppose this apology may be removed as well, but I'll give it a try.  I'm in favor of Apple staying great, thats all.  That being said, I hope you caught it for the 60 seconds it was there.

    Posts are not removed because the "offended the sensibilities of some Apple followers". They are removed by the Hosts (paid Apple employees) because they violate Apple's Terms of Use, to which you agreed when you signed up. So, your apology is just a tad disingenuous.

  • by mpcaldwell36,

    mpcaldwell36 mpcaldwell36 Aug 2, 2016 11:33 AM in response to Nogard2008
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    Aug 2, 2016 11:33 AM in response to Nogard2008

    Weird everyone is saying that there is no mouse support built into ipad.  If you bring up your keyboard hold down any 2 keys and it turns into a mouse pad you can move your fingers around anywhere with a cursor on screen.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Aug 2, 2016 11:36 AM in response to mpcaldwell36
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    Aug 2, 2016 11:36 AM in response to mpcaldwell36

    mpcaldwell36 wrote:

     

    Weird everyone is saying that there is no mouse support built into ipad.  If you bring up your keyboard hold down any 2 keys and it turns into a mouse pad you can move your fingers around anywhere with a cursor on screen.

    That would be a track pad. A mouse pad is something that you put on your desk, usually made of neoprene, to provide a better surface for the mouse. And, yes, it's been mentioned once or twice in the thread.

     

    Best of luck.

  • by mpcaldwell36,

    mpcaldwell36 mpcaldwell36 Aug 2, 2016 11:39 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Aug 2, 2016 11:39 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    Wow thanks for explaining that to me.  never would have known.  what a lifesaver.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Aug 2, 2016 11:55 AM in response to murphdawg9734
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    Aug 2, 2016 11:55 AM in response to murphdawg9734

    I saw your post; it was a bit far fetched to call it speculative, but I don't get to vote. But if the Apple Car doesn't support a mouse there is no way I would consider it!

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Aug 2, 2016 12:03 PM in response to mpcaldwell36
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    Aug 2, 2016 12:03 PM in response to mpcaldwell36

    mpcaldwell36 wrote:

     

    Wow thanks for explaining that to me.  never would have known.  what a lifesaver.

    You're welcome.

  • by Mike K,

    Mike K Mike K Aug 19, 2016 5:28 PM in response to Christian Greenberg
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    Aug 19, 2016 5:28 PM in response to Christian Greenberg

    OH, so, using a VNC app, puchased through the App Store, is "doing something wrong"? It must be really wonderful to be the only user that these devices were designed for and that everyone who has a need that is different from yours is wrong.

  • by Mike K,

    Mike K Mike K Aug 19, 2016 5:39 PM in response to Michael Black
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    Aug 19, 2016 5:39 PM in response to Michael Black

    Actually, if you need a tablet with a mouse, it's not that an iPad isn't for you, it's that Apple isn't for you, because they don't make one and want you to buy from somebody else if that's what you need.

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