Wi-Fi is on after rebooting, although it should be turned off

Since the update on El Capitan I have the following problem:


Wi-Fi is on after rebooting, although it should be turned off.


I use very rarely Wi-Fi. In the system settings Wi-Fi is off.

If I turn off the Mac and switch on again, Wi-Fi is active again after startup.

Every time I have to deactivate Wi-Fi again in the menu bar.

In Yosemite the problem has not occurred.

I have performed a clean installation of El Capitan.

PRAM reset was not successful.

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014), OS X El Capitan (10.11.1)

Posted on Nov 6, 2015 2:15 AM

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Nov 6, 2015 2:31 AM in response to iosch

Indeed it should not start when you turned it off before shutting down....

Is there an app that starts automatically when starting up (like Dropbox or such):

in SystemPreferences->Users&Groups->LoginItems remove all entries with the minus sign underneath.

in StartupDisk->Library->StartupItems, delete all entries.

in ˜/Library->StartupItems, delete all entries.

All removed entries should now be started by hand when neccessary.

in SystemPreferences->Network left panel: move WiFi down to the bottom.

Restart.

Issue gone?

Lex

Nov 6, 2015 3:49 AM in response to Lexiepex

LexSchellings wrote:

Is there an app that starts automatically when starting up (like Dropbox or such):

in SystemPreferences->Users&Groups->LoginItems remove all entries with the minus sign underneath.

in StartupDisk->Library->StartupItems, delete all entries.

in ˜/Library->StartupItems, delete all entries.

All removed entries should now be started by hand when neccessary.

I suggest deleting everything you might find in these locations only as a last resort! This is because some items may provide functions you want or need to use, for some things it can require reinstalling the parent application to restore that functionality, & for some things starting them manually after login may not be possible or not allow them to work as designed.


I suggest first opening System Report (quickly accessible from the Apple menu by holding down the option key) & seeing what (if anything) it says when you select "Startup Items" from the Software section on the left. Chances are that it will just say "No information found" because El Capitan automatically disables certain startup items, even if they are present in one of the library folders. But if it does show any items, use the info provided to decide if one or more might be something contributing to this issue.


However, this won't tell you anything about login items. Use System Preferences > Users & Groups > Login Items to see what is set to start up at log in time. Scan the list for anything unexpected but before you remove anything, do a little research to see what it does & if there is an updated version you should be using with El Capitan. Sometimes it is obvious from the name what it does -- for instance I have a "Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector2" login item that I know provides scanning functionality for my Canon printer/scanner. To make it easier to find info about these items, you can right click on one of them, which pops up a "Show in Finder" option. Using that & Get Info on the item will usually tell you the origin of the item, the version number, how old it is, & so on.

Nov 6, 2015 4:14 AM in response to Lexiepex

LexSchellings wrote:


Indeed it should not start when you turned it off before shutting down....

Is there an app that starts automatically when starting up (like Dropbox or such):

in SystemPreferences->Users&Groups->LoginItems remove all entries with the minus sign underneath.

in StartupDisk->Library->StartupItems, delete all entries.

in ˜/Library->StartupItems, delete all entries.

All removed entries should now be started by hand when neccessary.

in SystemPreferences->Network left panel: move WiFi down to the bottom.

Restart.

Issue gone?

Lex


I have installed the following:


- El Capitan

- Pages, Numbers, Keynote

- Software updates from AppStore


There is no other software installed.


I have no startup items found.

Nov 6, 2015 5:01 AM in response to R C-R

Normally these startup/loginItems locations are and should be empty !

What you see often is iTunesHelper in the LoginItems, but that is absolutely superfluous: when needed the iTunes Helper starts, it is not necessary to have it running always.

There is one "deeper" location: System/Library/StartupItems, which is and should be empty since Yosemite.

Lex

Nov 6, 2015 7:05 AM in response to Lexiepex

LexSchellings wrote:

Normally these startup/loginItems locations are and should be empty !

Usually quite true for the Startupitems folders, but not necessarily so for Login Items. As the info in that System Preference says, those items will open automatically at login, but that does not necessarily mean they will keep running or even if they do that they will use significant system resources or not provide some useful function.


Aside from the Canon software I already mentioned (which places a menu item in the menu bar but uses zero CPU time unless it is accessed), I have a TrackballWorksHelper.app that initializes my Kensington "Expert Mouse" trackball at login time with my preferences for it & insures that they work properly with CoreServices & other system level processes. It uses at most around 0.6% of one CPU core & <4 MB of memory.


Because the trackball is in constant use once I log in, it would be silly & quite annoying to have to start it manually, particularly since this is exactly the kind of thing Apple designed the Login Items function for to begin with.


There are quite a few other apps that use the same function for the same reason, & do so without violating any of Apple's developer guidelines. One I sometimes use is "IBetterCharge," which more than once has saved me from leaving home with a nearly dead iPhone battery.


My point here is simply that while a login item may cause some undesirable behavior, many do something that is quite useful. It makes no sense (to me, anyway) to suggest removing all of them instead of trying to figure out which (if any) of them is doing something unwanted.

Nov 6, 2015 9:44 AM in response to R C-R

To nuance: yes sometimes it can be an advantage to have something in the LoginItems: something that needs a restart when necessary: Indeed I have the Canon IJ scanner in the login Items for that (scanner for MX885 in one of my locations) myself.

When we have an etrecheck list, and it is there, I make an exception for that. Not for anything else that does not need a restart. So yes, we agree a bit. 👿

Lex

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