What's better than Quicken for Mac?

Csound1 wrote:

Hi HK

I'll endorse FoxFifth's suggestion

How quickly you change your advice (one day); so as to be contrary to my opinion, as you have so often demonstrated in the past?

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happykat wrote:

I will need to migrate my Quicken Windows data over to the new program and will need features such as account tracking and reconciliation, investment tracking, planning and keeping track of bills and spending.

All of these features are available in Quicken 2007 for Mac; the currently updated version 16.2.3 will run in El Capitan.

Intuit's past history regarding Mac users may soon be irrelevant, as several posts suggest that Intuit has put Quicken up for sale. Perhaps the new owner will shut it down completely (doubtful) or provide a better product and support for Mac users (hopefully).

I started with the program Home Accountant on the Apple ][ and migrated through Time is Money, Mac Money and then Quicken many years ago on the Mac (to my current use of Quicken 2007 for Mac). It has consistently offered me all of the tools that I need for my home financial data.

As a historical note:

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Here is the next part of the thread you extracted that from, the part you omitted.

I endorse FoxFifths post because I seen him/her consistently make good recommendations, quality that is reflected in the level he/she has reached, so while I have no experience of iBank FoxFifth is a reference I am happy to accept, and endorse

FoxFifth wrote:

One thing that I am really impressed with in iBank is their support. I only really needed it one time.

In spite of one members negative post about Intuit failing in the area of customer support, without any specific information to support that criticism, in actuality Intuit updated Quicken 2007 for Mac to 16.2.3 due to one user's suggestion about an alternative date format so that Quicken would support the European style of displaying dates:

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http://https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6449245

MlchaelLAX wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

That it took Intuit 5 years to support their Mac customers. 5 years in which Mac users were ignored. You may think that constitutes good support, I think it constitutes no support.

Check your facts before you misstate them:

https://quicken.intuit.com/support/help/patching/quicken-2007-manual-updates--ma c-/GEN82250.html

Your link leads to this.

Csound1 wrote:

It appears that Intuit want to dump Quicken, so, either their support will get even worse than it currently is or whoever buys it may (or may not) improve it.

Once again incorrect conjecture on your part!

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Csound1 wrote:

You admitted to the OP in another thread that the primary reason you left Quicken behind was that it was not robust enough for your business needs. Quicken was never intended for business but for the home financial market.

That is incorrect, please post a link to where I said that I used Quicken for my business needs?

It is really getting tiresome to have to do your research for you...

Csound1 wrote:

No (sadly) I abandoned Quicken (and Quickbooks) some time ago, my business demanded something more capable.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7327163?answerId=29286427022#29286427022

Several years ago I switched from Quicken to iBank and I'm very happy with it. It migrated my Quicken Windows data and works well. After years of using Quicken the first couple of months were a bit frustrating due to relatively small differences in how it does things but that would be true with any change after years with Quicken. They have a free trial if you download it from their website. https://www.iggsoftware.com/ibank/

Here is a recent comprehensive post that I assembled, answering several questions, including yours:

Quicken 2007 for Mac has been continuously upgraded for OS X compatibility, including Yosemite and now El Capitan.

You can obtain Quicken 2007 for Mac for $15 using the Intuit online chat function.

Use the chat feature for Quicken for Mac: Quicken 2007 for Lion: Shopping and Buying: Buying Quicken on this page:

https://quicken.custhelp.com/app/contact/plvl1/win

Be sure to use the Online Upgrade feature once you install it; as of this writing it is version 16.2.3

If you are using Quicken 2004 or earlier, you first need to convert the data file to Quicken 2005/6/7 data format while still running on a PPC Mac, or in Snow Leopard on an Intel Mac:

Download Quicken 2006 (PPC) from Intuit:

https://quicken.intuit.com/support/help/patching/quicken-2006-manual-updates--ma c-/GEN82200.html

Open your data file in Quicken 2006 (PPC) and it will automatically convert it to a Quicken 2005/6/7 data file.

AVOID Quicken 2015 for Mac as it is a misleading upgrade of Quicken Essentials for Mac (and not Quicken 2007), which is generally loathed by all real Quicken for Mac 2007 and previous users!

Convert your Quicken Windows data file to Quicken 2007 for Mac:

https://quicken.intuit.com/support/help/how-do-i-convert-quicken-for-windows-fil es-to-quicken-for-mac-2007-/GEN82890.html

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I can and will change my mind as I see fit. Quicken (all variants) is junk and Intuit are malevolent in their treatment of Mac users, using Quicken for Mac is the simplest way to get from Windows to Mac. It's also the worst way to do it, FoxFifth is correct, a better albeit not as simple choice. Your suggestions are complex dinosaurs which the OP is trying to avoid (which if you had actually read the thread you extracted my post from) you would have known.

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When I switched (around August 2012) I wasn't aware that Quicken 2007 was an option. If I remember correctly, Intuit went out of their way to hide that possibility -- or maybe I just didn't look hard enough. I had been using Quicken on a Windows computer for years and was happy with it but I did not want to install Windows on my Mac just to run one program.

For the features I use, I would consider the capabilities of the two to be identical. I wasn't happy the first two months as some things were hard to find and adapt to, but if I had to go the other direction today I'm 100% sure that I would be saying the same thing about Quicken.

One thing that I am really impressed with in iBank is their support. I only really needed it one time. I was having a problem with connecting to one of my banks (for the automatic transaction download). It turned out to be a problem at the bank but while working to resolve it the iBank support people even offered to make a conference call with me and the bank to try to help resolve it.

To switch of not to switch; that is the question (with apologies to William Shakespeare).

FoxFifth made the switch because he was unaware that Intuit had released an Intel version of Quicken 2007 for Mac in February 2012 (after Lion, released in 2011, eliminated Rosetta). No point in debating how widespread the coverage of this release was back then, because FoxFifth was not aware of it and made the switch.

Having made the switch, FoxFifth is happy with iBank. He acknowledges, for his purposes, the two programs have identical features.

The OP has not yet made the switch.

We have made the OP aware of Quicken 2007 for Mac, which is available for only $15. We have made the OP aware that the bad reviews are for Quicken for Mac 2015, which is a misleading upgrade of Quicken Essentials and not of Quicken 2007 for Mac.

The OP can easily purchase Quicken 2007 for Mac, convert his Quicken for Windows data and continue his efforts on Quicken.

If he is then unhappy with Quicken 2007 for Mac (which I doubt will happen), he can then make the more intensive effort to convert to and learn to use a new program, such as iBank.

The choice is his.

FoxFifth wrote:

When I switched (around August 2012) I wasn't aware that Quicken 2007 was an option. If I remember correctly, Intuit went out of their way to hide that possibility -- or maybe I just didn't look hard enough. I had been using Quicken on a Windows computer for years and was happy with it but I did not want to install Windows on my Mac just to run one program.

For the features I use, I would consider the capabilities of the two to be identical. I wasn't happy the first two months as some things were hard to find and adapt to, but if I had to go the other direction today I'm 100% sure that I would be saying the same thing about Quicken.

One thing that I am really impressed with in iBank is their support. I only really needed it one time. I was having a problem with connecting to one of my banks (for the automatic transaction download). It turned out to be a problem at the bank but while working to resolve it the iBank support people even offered to make a conference call with me and the bank to try to help resolve it.

I made the switch partly because of the time it took Intuit to support their Mac users with a compatible version (Quicken having become incompatible with versions of OS X after Lion) it underlined their disregard for the Mac user. As a Quickbooks user as well I had also become very frustrated with the Mac version of that. I handed the business job over to CA and the home needs were handled by a modified Excel template.

It's good to hear that iBank have good support, Intuit fail badly in that area.

Csound1 wrote:

Remind me again Michael, how long after PPC apps stopped being supported did Intuit get around to releasing a version of Quicken that supported Intel processors?

I am happy to refresh your memory:

Intuit released their Intel version of Quicken 2007 in February, 2012; Adobe NEVER released an Intel version of Freehand MX!

In February 2012, the vast majority of Mac users could still run Quicken 2007 PPC on their Macs in Snow Leopard.

What's your point?

That it took Intuit 5 years to support their Mac customers. 5 years in which Mac users were ignored. You may think that constitutes good support, I think it constitutes no support.

I have no idea why you bring up an Adobe product, I never mentioned Adobe, and I do not see what that has to do with Intuit.