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Q: Tried triple-boot now XP no longer bootable

I installed Windows XP on my iMac 3 years ago and recently installed Windows 7 trying to make it "Triple-Boot"

After that it would not boot into XP. So I removed Windows 7 and restored the Partition back to OSX+XP but still won't boot in Windows XP (as shown in Information - "Bootable: No")

 

I realise I have probably done this all wrong but is it possible to get it bootable again?

Would rolling back in Time Machine work? I did a back-up just before installing Windows 7

 

I have found numerous Questions and Answers on this topic but all slightly different. Any help much appreciated!

 

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iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Nov 10, 2015 9:20 PM

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  • by Loner T,Helpful

    Loner T Loner T Nov 18, 2015 1:03 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 18, 2015 1:03 AM in response to doug3684

    If W7 is installed on the same partition as WXP, then Windows 'dual-booting' will work, like it does on a PC. If a new partition is created on a Mac to install W7, it will not work. This is due to the limitations imposed due to a BIOS/MBR partition limit. Time Machine does not backup NTFS partitions.

     

    Please post the output of the following OSX Terminal commands and we can check if XP can be recovered.

     

    diskutil list

    diskutil cs list

    sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

    sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

     

    The "sudo" commands will prompt for your password, and it will not be echoed back. You may also see a warning about improper use of "sudo" and potential data loss due to "abuse" of the command.

  • by doug3684,

    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 10, 2015 10:08 PM in response to Loner T
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    Nov 10, 2015 10:08 PM in response to Loner T

    As requested, hope I did it right!

     

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    Loner T Loner T Nov 11, 2015 4:51 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 11, 2015 4:51 AM in response to doug3684

    Were the "sudo" commands from an account/login which does not have administrative rights to the Mac?

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    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 12, 2015 5:57 AM in response to Loner T
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    Nov 12, 2015 5:57 AM in response to Loner T

    Not sure what you mean, I typed the commands in. Its my computer, no-one else has ever used it. I blanked out my name for a bit of privacy

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    Loner T Loner T Nov 12, 2015 6:09 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 12, 2015 6:09 AM in response to doug3684

    It was unrelated to the name part. The "sudo" commands are returning "permission denied". Can you check Enabling and using the "root" user in OS X - Apple Support and look at the steps for your OS X version (10.7 I presume).

  • by doug3684,

    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 12, 2015 8:01 AM in response to Loner T
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    Nov 12, 2015 8:01 AM in response to Loner T

    Okay I did that and went a step ahead hoping its what is required. I have gone no further than this

    The Windows XP I'm interested in is 20.2GB

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    Loner T Loner T Nov 12, 2015 8:36 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 12, 2015 8:36 AM in response to doug3684

    1. You now have an additional 34.7GB Bootcamp. What is the intent of this Bootcamp partition?

    2. If you entered your password and pressed return, did you get any output? The warning is expected.

  • by doug3684,

    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 12, 2015 9:18 AM in response to Loner T
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    Nov 12, 2015 9:18 AM in response to Loner T

    There are two Bootcamps because I tried to do "Triple Boot" I probably did that all wrong and this is the problem perhaps

     

    In Terminal it doesn't do anything when I try to type the password

    I tried Copy and Paste and I got "Sorry, try again"

    I now have "sudo: 2 incorrect password attempts" - how many can you do?

     

    I thought I put in my usual password in Directory Utility but I might have missed a Capital letter. I shall try that if you think its safe to do so

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Nov 12, 2015 9:24 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 12, 2015 9:24 AM in response to doug3684

    It is safe to try again. The password is not echoed back to you.

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    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 12, 2015 9:30 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 12, 2015 9:30 AM in response to doug3684

    Sorry, to explain further about the Bootcamp

    I installed Windows 7 recently then removed it and then installed Windows XP again (but the original one is still there)

    I don't intend to keep the second installation of Windows XP, I hope to be able to bring the first one back

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    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 12, 2015 9:58 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 12, 2015 9:58 AM in response to doug3684

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    Loner T Loner T Nov 12, 2015 11:58 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 12, 2015 11:58 AM in response to doug3684

    Your MBR is telling the Mac to boot from GPT4 which is the 34.7 GB Bootcamp. Do you want it to boot from GPT5 which si the 20.2 GB Bootcamp?

  • by doug3684,

    doug3684 doug3684 Nov 13, 2015 1:53 AM in response to Loner T
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    Nov 13, 2015 1:53 AM in response to Loner T

    Yes thats right

  • by Loner T,Helpful

    Loner T Loner T Nov 18, 2015 1:04 AM in response to doug3684
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    Nov 18, 2015 1:04 AM in response to doug3684

    If you have OSX El Capitan, then otherwise skip this part.

     

    1. Boot into Local Recovery (Command+R) during power up.

    2. Run Utilities -> Terminal.

    3. Type csrutil disable and press return/enter.

    4. Boot normally.

    5. Type csrutil status in OSX Terminal and verify that is it disabled. If still enabled, repeat.


    This is a non-standard MBR and should not be used for any other situations.

     

    Rebuild MBR to match the new GPT information thus resetting the Hybrid MBR. Use defaults for other questions (like partition codes). The only values that need modifications are the Boot flags and step 10. Accept all other defaults that Gdisk offers. Please see the sample Q&A as an example. These steps can be repeated if you make a mistake before you get to Step 12, otherwise start from Step 1 for these steps. Step 6 has numbers which are typed with a space between the numbers. Please see the sample Q&A before you execute these steps.

    1. Sudo gdisk /dev/rdisk0
    2. P  (Print list of parts)
    3. R  (Recover)
    4. O (print current Hybrid MBR)
    5. H (chooses Hybrid)
    6. Partitions numbers to be hybridized: 3 4 5
    7. Y  (Good for GRUB question)
    8. N  (part 3 boot flag)
    9. N  (part 4 boot flag)
    10. Y  (part 5 boot flag make NTFS bootable partition)
    11. O  (print current Hybrid MBR)
    12. W (Write the new MBR)
    13. Y (Yes! write the new MBR)
    14. Reboot

     

    Here is sample Q&A for this section. Please notice the Press Enter/Return.

     

    Place EFI GPT (0xEE) partition first in MBR (good for GRUB)? (Y/N): Y

     

    Creating entry for GPT partition #3 (MBR partition #2)

    Enter an MBR hex code (default AB): Press Enter/Return

    Set the bootable flag? (Y/N): N

     

    Creating entry for GPT partition #4 (MBR partition #3)

    Enter an MBR hex code (default 07): Press Enter/Return

    Set the bootable flag? (Y/N): Y

     

    Creating entry for GPT partition #5 (MBR partition #4)

    Enter an MBR hex code (default 07): Press Enter/Return

    Set the bootable flag? (Y/N): Y

     

    Test 1 - Does Bootcamp Volume show up in Finder?

    Test 2 - Can you see files in Bootcamp Volume?

    Test 3 - Can you select Bootcamp in System Preferences -> Startup Disk?

    Test 4 - If Test 3 is successful, select Bootcamp and Click Restart.

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