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Q: When will Apple distribute corrected OS X El Captain?

All of u know and suffer from the big mess induced by last OS X update, called "El Captain".

We have no doubt on initial good intentions from Apple but it has been released before full completion fo Quality check.

Now lots of applications are fully destabilised. For instance Mail application is out of order and, in my case, internet connection using Telecom USB key stopped working by the same.

It is urgent that Apple admit their fault and correct it at very soonest ... when ???

MacBook Air, OS X El Capitan (10.11.1)

Posted on Nov 12, 2015 9:06 AM

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Q: When will Apple distribute corrected OS X El Captain?

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  • by FatMac>MacPro,

    FatMac>MacPro FatMac>MacPro Nov 12, 2015 9:31 AM in response to rgourc
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    Nov 12, 2015 9:31 AM in response to rgourc

    It might be wise to treat this as a learning experience.

     

    Since you upgraded to El Capitan from some earlier OS, you're aware that previous versions of OS X went through a series of updates (e.g., Yosemite went from 10.10.0 to 10.10.5) to correct issues discovered after initial release too. So, unless there is some must-have feature of the newest version of OS X, why not wait to upgrade to it while following the difficulties others may be having on these Communities? Or, if you have access to additional partitions and or drives, cloning your current installation and upgrading that instead to test the new OS before committing to it.

  • by JimmyCMPIT,

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT Nov 12, 2015 9:49 AM in response to rgourc
    Level 5 (6,948 points)
    Mac OS X
    Nov 12, 2015 9:49 AM in response to rgourc

    Heres a question.

    you have an old car with an aftermarket part

    you buy a newer make of the same car

    the aftermarket part won't fit when you want to put it on on the newer model.

    when do you tell the car manufacturer they need to admit it's their fault and fix it so it works with your old parts?

  • by pinkstones,

    pinkstones pinkstones Nov 12, 2015 9:49 AM in response to rgourc
    Level 5 (4,209 points)
    Safari
    Nov 12, 2015 9:49 AM in response to rgourc

    rgourc wrote:

     

    All of u know and suffer from the big mess induced by last OS X update, called "El Captain".

    We have no doubt on initial good intentions from Apple but it has been released before full completion fo Quality check.

    Now lots of applications are fully destabilised. For instance Mail application is out of order and, in my case, internet connection using Telecom USB key stopped working by the same.

    It is urgent that Apple admit their fault and correct it at very soonest ... when ???

     

    I'm not suffering from having installed El Capitan — everything has gone smoothly for me for nearly two months now.  Over 20 million people have downloaded and installed it; they're not all posting here or posting user reviews in the App Store.  That tells me that the small minority of people that are having problems are having those problems because of something going on with their individual computers, not the operating system as a whole. 

     

    El Capitan was in beta testing for a year.  They didn't just cobble something together in two weeks and throw it out there.  If you need help with something that's not working the way you think it should be working, download and run EtreCheck, then copy/paste the status report here.  We can't help you until we know what's on your system.

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert Nov 12, 2015 9:55 AM in response to rgourc
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    Desktops
    Nov 12, 2015 9:55 AM in response to rgourc

    rgourc wrote:

     

    All of u know and suffer from the big mess induced by last OS X update, called "El Captain".

    We have no doubt on initial good intentions from Apple but it has been released before full completion fo Quality check.

    Now lots of applications are fully destabilised. For instance Mail application is out of order and, in my case, internet connection using Telecom USB key stopped working by the same.

    It is urgent that Apple admit their fault and correct it at very soonest ... when ???

    Rather then Apple fixing anything, I think you are going to have to admit the truth that there is something wrong with your Mac. You are going to have figure out what that is. If you will stop your ranting and post the details of your problems and what you have done we might be able to help you to fix it.

     

    Along those lines if you download and install EtreCheck from http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Run it and post the report here. The report will give us a snapshot of your Mac which we can analyze in an effort to help you solve your problems.

  • by rgourc,

    rgourc rgourc Nov 12, 2015 10:20 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT
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    Nov 12, 2015 10:20 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT

    Would I use an old version of Macbook air then I would accept your remark as fully valid...but it is not the fact: Systematically I buy newest releases of Macbook air as soon as available (and I give my previous one as gift to a family relative)

  • by JimmyCMPIT,

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT Nov 12, 2015 10:44 AM in response to rgourc
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    Mac OS X
    Nov 12, 2015 10:44 AM in response to rgourc

    I'm supporting DOZENS of systems new and old and not seeing these problems?

    Did they occur immeditly after unboxing your computer without adding any additional software or did you add additional software? If so what? If what? Are there updates for it? Are there no updates for it? Does the developer of the product state the product will (or won't) work with OS 10.11? Did the developer stop developing the product? Is it a legitimate product? Is there a product you are running that is a known to be a problem with the stability of the system?

  • by Converted2iMac,

    Converted2iMac Converted2iMac Nov 12, 2015 11:06 AM in response to rgourc
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    Nov 12, 2015 11:06 AM in response to rgourc

    We have three Macs in the house and all three have been upgraded to El Capitan.

     

    Only the oldest, a 2010 iMac 27" has had any issues.

     

    Since the upgrade on 29 October it has had 7-8 catastrophic crashes - i.e. machine died, requiring cold start. Panic reports in almost all cases pointed at Trusteer Rapport and, on contacting them, they admit there is a problem they are working on.

     

    After disabling Rapport, there have been no further crashes of that sort.

     

    There have been numerous crashes in Apple Mail - the application crashing when a mail is selected for reply or forwarding. Opening the mail in a separate window sorts that, though when Mail restarts, it also works as it should, from the side bar.

     

    I've had an iPhoto crash that required the entire library of 45,000 images to be rebuilt. That was the scariest of the lot, though I did have backups on Time Machine, had I needed them. I had, however, deleted files from the camera on the latest upload to iPhoto, and they would have been lost had I not identified a free app in the App Store that restored the pictures. Now I never delete the files at time of upload, for safety.

     

    There have been a couple of Safari crashes, one after Rapport had been removed.

     

    All have been recoverable, so the experiences have probably forced me to be even more careful in ensuring stuff is backed up and safe..

     

    On the plus side, the system has appeared to be faster than when running Yosemite.

  • by rgourc,

    rgourc rgourc Nov 12, 2015 11:39 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT
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    Nov 12, 2015 11:39 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT

    The application at problem is Mail from Apple Inc.

    Since more than one year I have been using it with 3 simultaneous email accounts, hotmail, gmail and yahoo. Never I faced a single issue.

     

    Then I updated from latest version of OS X (always I keep my software updated to latest version thanks to App Store from Apple Inc.) to this new El Captain. Immediately, Mail application stopped working correctly. There was nothing else installed in that mean time.

     

    For your information, today I migrated my email accounts and Mail mailboxes to Outlook and all works fine.

    Don't misinterpret this statement: I preferred Mail application however I was stuck and needed an urgent fix for being able to work again.

  • by Grant Lenahan,Helpful

    Grant Lenahan Grant Lenahan Nov 12, 2015 11:57 AM in response to rgourc
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    Mac OS X
    Nov 12, 2015 11:57 AM in response to rgourc

    Just FYI - Mine (just updated) is working fine.  My mail -- with7 accounts -- works fine.

     

    Admittedly its a 2 hour test, but the problem is some kind of corruption or 3rd party software. 10.11 appears to work ok.

     

    Just sayin....

  • by rgourc,

    rgourc rgourc Nov 12, 2015 2:18 PM in response to pinkstones
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    Nov 12, 2015 2:18 PM in response to pinkstones

    Here is the EtreCheck report I got. Personally I don't see things highly abnormal; yourself?


    EtreCheck version: 2.6.3 (223)

    Report generated 12/11/15 23:08

    Runtime 1:34

    Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Hardware Information: (What does this mean?)

        MacBook Air

        [Click for Technical Specifications]

        [Click for User Guide]

        MacBook Air - model: MacBookAir6,1

        1 1,7 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 2-core

        8 GB RAM Not upgradeable

                BANK 0/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

        Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

        Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 330 - SN = C0132520259F90H4L

     

    Video Information: (What does this mean?)

        Intel HD Graphics 5000

            Color LCD 1366 x 768

     

    System Software: (What does this mean?)

        OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 (15B42) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information: (What does this mean?)

        APPLE SSD SD0256F disk0 : (251 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 249.77 GB (37.23 GB free)

                Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked

                Core Storage: disk0s2 250.14 GB Online

     

    USB Information: (What does this mean?)

        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    Thunderbolt Information: (What does this mean?)

        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Configuration files: (What does this mean?)

        /etc/sysctl.conf - File exists but not expected

     

    Gatekeeper: (What does this mean?)

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: (What does this mean?)

            /System/Library/Extensions

        [loaded]    com.airgrab.driver.AirGrabFirewallModule (3.0) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.cisco.cscotun (1.0) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.cisco.nke.ipsec (2.0.3 ) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt (0.0.97) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverVSP (0.0.74) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.rim.driver.BlackBerryVirtualPrivateNetwork (1.0.11) [Click for support]

     

    Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)

        [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.babylon.activation.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.canon.MFManager.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.divx.dms.agent.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.divx.update.agent.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.ecamm.iglasses3agent.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]

     

    Launch Daemons: (What does this mean?)

        [loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.agsservice.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.dovecot.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.fetchmail.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.postfix.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.spambayes.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.uw_imap.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.uw_imaps.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.uw_pop3.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.cutedgesystems.uw_pop3s.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.malwarebytes.MBAMHelperTool.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.sharpcast.xfsmond.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.winzip.WinZipMacOptimizer.FileSystemHelper.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    net.privatetunnel.ptcore.plist [Click for support]

     

    User Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)

        [failed]    com.Wondershare.TunesGoWatchDemo.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.microsoft.LaunchAgent.SyncServicesAgent.plist [Click for support]

     

    User Login Items: (What does this mean?)

        iTunesHelper    Application  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

     

    Other Apps: (What does this mean?)

        [running]    com.adobe.acc.AdobeDesktopService.148832.778BAD68-8A56-4119-91E9-AFC1B18623B6

        [running]    com.adobe.accmac.106912

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000000.EtreCheck

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000002.Microsoft Excel

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000003.Microsoft Outlook

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000004.Notepad

        [running]    com.hp.devicemonitor

        [running]    com.microsoft.SyncServicesAgent.93152

        [running]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.fba.145632

        [running]    com.microsoft.outlook.databasedaemon.89952

        [running]    com.winzip.WinZipMacOptimizer.LoginHelper

     

    Internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)

        AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 15.009.20077 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]

        Flash Player: Version: 19.0.0.245 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        DivX Web Player: Version: 3.4.0.6 - SDK 10.10 [Click for support]

        AdobePDFViewer: Version: 15.009.20077 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]

        googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 5.41.0.0 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]

        iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 - SDK 10.8

        PepperFlashPlayer: Version: 19.0.0.245 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        DirectorShockwave: Version: 11.6.5r635 [Click for support]

        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 19.0.0.245 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        AdobeAAMDetect: Version: 3.0.0.0 - SDK 10.9 [Click for support]

        CANONiMAGEGATEWAYDL: Version: 2.1.0.1 [Click for support]

        CANONiMAGEGATEWAYLI: Version: 2.1.0.1 [Click for support]

        OVSHelper: Version: 1.1 [Click for support]

        Silverlight: Version: 5.1.30214.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 [Click for support]

        Default Browser: Version: 601 - SDK 10.11

        Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 3.2.0.16   - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]

        o1dbrowserplugin: Version: 5.41.0.0 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]

        SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.5.8 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 15.0.1 - SDK 10.11 Check version

     

    User internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)

        CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: Version: 1.0.105 [Click for support]

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: (What does this mean?)

        Flash Player  [Click for support]

        Flip4Mac WMV  [Click for support]

     

    Time Machine: (What does this mean?)

        Skip System Files: NO

        Mobile backups: ON

        Auto backup: YES

        Volumes being backed up:

            Macintosh HD: Disk size: 249.77 GB Disk used: 212.54 GB

        Destinations:

            Data [Network]

            Total size: 2.00 TB

            Total number of backups: 21

            Oldest backup: 07/11/15 23:03

            Last backup: 12/11/15 21:37

            Size of backup disk: Excellent

                Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk size 249.77 GB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU: (What does this mean?)

             7%    Adobe CEF Helper(2)

             4%    WindowServer

             2%    Microsoft Outlook

             1%    fontd

             0%    Creative Cloud

     

    Top Processes by Memory: (What does this mean?)

        678 MB    kernel_task

        377 MB    com.apple.WebKit.Plugin.64

        270 MB    mds_stores

        254 MB    mdworker(15)

        197 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(2)

     

    Virtual Memory Information: (What does this mean?)

        2.93 GB    Free RAM

        5.07 GB    Used RAM (2.10 GB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information: (What does this mean?)

        Nov 12, 2015, 11:03:35 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/gamed_2015-11-12-230335_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 11:03:23 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/gamed_2015-11-12-230323_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 11:03:04 PM    Self test - passed

        Nov 12, 2015, 10:22:15 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/gamed_2015-11-12-222215_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 10:12:30 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Mail To PST Converter_2015-11-12-101230_[redacted].cpu_resource.diag [Click for details]

        Nov 12, 2015, 09:25:43 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/bird_2015-11-12-092543_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 09:25:33 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/bird_2015-11-12-092533_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 09:23:39 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/bird_2015-11-12-092339_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 09:23:29 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/bird_2015-11-12-092329_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 09:23:19 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/bird_2015-11-12-092319_[redacted].crash

        Nov 12, 2015, 09:23:09 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/bird_2015-11-12-092309_[redacted].crash

        Nov 11, 2015, 11:11:16 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-231116_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 11:09:54 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-230954_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 11:08:37 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-230837_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 10:47:21 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-224721_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 10:42:05 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-224205_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 10:38:00 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-223800_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:56:07 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215607_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:54:08 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215408_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:54:07 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215407_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:53:29 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215329_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:53:28 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215328_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:52:51 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215251_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:52:50 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215250_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:52:11 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/???_2015-11-11-215211_[redacted].cpu_resource.d iag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 09:35:03 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Microsoft Database Utility_2015-11-11-213503_[redacted].cpu_resource.diag [Click for details]

        Nov 11, 2015, 03:08:39 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/com.apple.WebKit.Plugin.64_2015-11-11-150839_[r edacted].cpu_resource.diag [Click for details]