Mail constantly downloading messages

Hi all,


I've recently performed a clean install of OS X El Capitan on my mid 2102 Macbook Pro (Non Retina) and restored on to it my user folder and settings from before the installation (I was running the latest update of OS X Yosemite).

Since then, I have experienced an issue where Mail constantly lists in its activity that it's downloading messages.

The amount of message varies from time to time and would range between 1,000 to 100,000 messages.

This issue occurs several times every hour.

Obviously, I don't get more than a 1,000 messages every few minutes and the size of the files on my disk stays the same, so these are definitely the same messages Mail had already downloaded when I initially performed the account setup.


The reason this bothers me is that it slows down the performance of my Mac, especially when working in Mail (which is one of my top 3 apps in OS X).

In addition, it severely drains the battery.


I've seen several posts with no solution that helped me fixed the issue.

I tried to disable and enable the account and I've also tried to recreate the account.

I tried to follow the steps provided at http://www.needhelp4mac.com/2015/10/troubleshooting-apple-mail-in-os-x-10-11-el- capitan/ which I saw posted in a similar thread - Mail constantly downloading messages | How to reset Mail?

However, all of these steps did not solve my issue.

My account type is an Exchange account and I'm running the latest 10.11.1 update.


If anyone has any other idea of something I could try, please let me know.

Any help would be much appreciated.


Thanks,

Yair.

MacBook Pro, OS X El Capitan (10.11.1)

Posted on Nov 17, 2015 2:50 AM

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Posted on Jan 3, 2018 2:45 AM

This is a method which I used after reading it on another blog and it worked very well. You end up with some emails downloaded again but after you threw them away the problem does no longer exist


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I was able to fix this problem using a variation of the info suggested by @Dataless.

the file MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded3 does exist, apparently, in the user/Library/Mail/V3/MailData folder, along with two other similarly named files MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded3-shm and MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded3-wal

i deleted all three just to be sure.

i restarted mail and this time it had many more mails to download but they all seemed to count off without problems -- and i no longer have the downloading message.

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Jan 20, 2016 5:40 PM in response to yairz

I think I may have my problem fixed, but I did a whole bunch of things so I can't say for sure what exactly fixed it.


What I did was, I deleted ALL my e-mail accounts, not just the problematical one. Then I deleted the V2 and V3 folders. Then I did a Spotlight search for "mail" and included system files. I then deleted all mail plists and caches.


I then empty the trash, restarted and recreated all my e-mail accounts for scratch, one by one.


Also, I changed Check for New Message, which had been set to every 5 minutes, to "manually" and turned on IDLE command on all accounts.


So far, so good.

Jan 21, 2016 11:14 AM in response to yairz

I just want to share, I have exactly this problem. Have been trying to solver for months. I have two Gmail accounts and one iCloud account. I'm presuming it is one of the Gmail accounts causing the problem.


Plan on trying some of the ideas here, in particular John Strungs solution.


What I hate is this issue while using WiFi during airline flights... just suck bandwidth, and I believe the airline provider then notices heavy use and then throttles my connection. have notice WiFi on airline is fast at the beginning, but later in the flight my connection *****!


wes

Jan 23, 2016 11:23 PM in response to restarter3

Same problem - constant 'Downloading Messages' but the numbers do not change. As of now, some 8,000 messages claim to be waiting to downloaded but they never come.
My problem is that I am in Uganda for the next few weeks and have a very limited network access. The re-boot took many hours and I have neither time nor airtime enough to do it again. My guess is that this is an Echange/Mail issue that will have to be worked on when I am back in office.


But surely it should be possible to correct Mail behaviour without a reboot???

The problem seems only to be connected to my Exchange account and started after a clean install when my MTN dongle software conflicted with El Capitan and crashed my MacBook (another story).

Jan 24, 2016 7:21 AM in response to maksoud

I may be totally wrong here, but after struggeling alot with this problem and IMAP server connection failure + Mail crashes I

would suggest you try to UN-check the IDLE function, and change setting in the "Look for mail" to "every minute"

instead of automatic. More here: Recurring IMAP connection errors

My problems are solved now thanks to the combination of deleting V2 and V3 completely and unchecking the IDLE function.

It just works now. No zillions of emails non stop downloading, no server disconnection, no Mail crashes. 3 days and counting...

Jan 24, 2016 8:12 AM in response to henkony

@Maksoud - I was having problems with a GoDaddy account too, but I had several other GoDaddy accounts on the same computer which worked fine. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I solved the problem by deleting both the V2 and V3 files and all mail plists and re-creating all my accounts from scratch.


@henkony - I think that setting "Look for Mail" to "every minute" may be counterproductive. I seem to recollect reading when I had the same problem several years ago that it could be caused by checking mail too frequently. If the client checks for mail before the previous download is completed, this can cause a synch problem which will precipitate a re-synchi.


My current settings are to check Mail manually only and IDLE is on. I seem to get mail fine now without having to check mail. The IDLE command pushes mail from the server instead of the mail transfer being initiated by the client.

Jan 24, 2016 9:15 AM in response to John Strung

@John Strung - You might be right regarding the first run after re-build, in that case I would still test to uncheck IDLE and set to get mail manually to make sure download first is completed before any new get-mail attempts are made. Could be worth at least trying...

The IDLE on is definitely a problem for me and my IMAP host (one.com). Been using IDLE on prior to El Capitan without any problems. Ever.

As soon as I turn IDLE on now, I get random server disconnections (every hour), weird everlasting connection attempts often followed by Mail crashes 7-10 times a day.

What I understand, In Capitan, Apple has changed the security protocol around IMAP, and it looks like many external hosts have a problem with this?

In my case it seems to be working perfect when Mail is making the request (IDLE OFF) - and not working when my IMAP server is poking Mail (IDLE ON)

So I'm just saying: Total re-build and IDLE off was the solution for for me.

Hope you guys soon find a work-around! Even better: Hope Apple is fixing it. Soon!

Jan 26, 2016 8:29 AM in response to yairz

I too have the issue. I've rebuilt, deleted etc. and it hasn't fixed it. It doesn't do it on my MBP but does on my iMac, both running the same OS version, both set up for identical accounts.


It's driving me nuts - I see it reporting that it is downloading 5 messages or so, for an hour; the messages are already downloaded sometimes and often other messages have downloaded since. Sometimes it gets a bit better but ultimately comes back. Mail is sucking up masses of CPU cycles doing absolutely nothing and obviously that affects other apps.


Apple appear to be ignoring, or unaware of the issue and/or this thread.

Jan 26, 2016 9:29 AM in response to yairz

OK, so I just fixed this after having another look at it. As ever, YMMV and it could come back again but right now it has immediately sorted it for me. Basically, I have Avast Security (Free) installed. I disabled the mail protection in the prefs and quit mail. I then fired Mail up again and it downloaded a load of "stuck" messages, then the activity viewers no longer showed it constantly downloading mail.


If this is simply coincidence, then maybe it will all go pear shaped again shortly but for now it seems OK. There are a bunch of options within Avast to control what it does with Mail but I'm too buy right now to do a load of testing to see which one, if any, is the issue. Either way, it seems fine right now. I'll report back if it falls back into old ways.


Interestingly, Mail's behaviour has changed. Instead of being stuck, the activity/status window still shows it checking and then reports "no new messages", then closes the connection as it should. It does check really often though, and it's supposed to be getting messages pushed through - Weird.


For those of you who don't have Avast, I hope you manage to sort this. It is worth checking to see if you have any Mail extensions installed, especially from old installations or anything else which might somehow interact with Mail, I suppose.

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