a brody
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Q: Some good news, and a question

It would appear Apple has not been clear cut as to whether or not drivers that work in 10.10 will work in 10.11.   However, in at least one instance a driver that has not been updated through the App Store software updates from Apple a printer does appear when you Option click add driver through the System Preferences in El Capitan.     Apple has this listing of 10.6 and later drivers available through software update. Apple support downloads for vendor specific drivers exist for HP (Jun 18, 2015), Ricoh, Canon (Sep 15, 2015), Canon Laser (Nov 3, 2015), Epson (Jun 8, 2015), Brother (Oct 8, 2015), Lexmark (Jan 29, 2015), Samsung (Nov 14, 2014), Fuji/Xerox (Apr 16, 2015) where the dates are the dates the driver was last updated on Apple Software Update.  My Canon Pixma 922 drivers, which are clearly not related to the Laser drivers work just fine when I option click the add driver in the Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Printer and Scanners in El Capitan.  Furthermore, when I go to select Options on drivers, I get this dialog:

 

Default El Capitan Printer.png

None of these printers would appear to have anything to do with my Pixma.  

 

I wonder how many other drivers from prior to September 30th work on El Capitan?  

iMac, OS X El Capitan (10.11), * I may get paid from macmaps links

Posted on Nov 21, 2015 7:51 PM

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  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Nov 22, 2015 7:18 PM in response to a brody
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:18 PM in response to a brody

    Note: Ricoh is September 30, 2014, a year older than El Capitan.

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    a brody a brody Dec 12, 2015 7:21 AM in response to a brody
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    Dec 12, 2015 7:21 AM in response to a brody

    Refreshing this thread.   Some additional interesting tests.  I had a second hard drive with El Capitan, and tried to install with the Option key held down. It failed multiple times.  So I went to Canon to download the drivers, which were from February 2015, well before El Capitan, but they labelled it as El Capitan compatible.   Well it installed, and sure enough the printer got added.   So suffice it to say, some older drivers than El Capitan are El Capitan compatible.   But which are and aren't will really be up to either manufacturer or end user to determine.   You may not get an update from the individual Apple downloads that are for the manufacturers, or even one that is newer from the manufacturer than the operating system.   Double check the manufacturer that they have tested it with El Capitan before upgrading.  I might also add for the Canon Pixma MX922 I had to use the IJ software from Canon's website in El Capitan, and no longer could use Image Capture like I did in Yosemite.    Image Capture gave me access to the scanner's sheet feeder, where the IJ software did not.  The Sheet Feeder scanning (ADF) is only available in El Capitan using the on device screen scanner software and not on the computer itself.

  • by dwb,

    dwb dwb Jan 21, 2016 4:20 AM in response to a brody
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    Jan 21, 2016 4:20 AM in response to a brody

    Adding to the confusion is that some (all?) manufacturer’s installers check the computer’s OS and refuse to install. I came across this early this year. I had the printer driver installed when I upgraded my computer to El Capitan and it worked perfectly. When I got a new computer with El Capitan pre installed the printer installer from Brother refused to install and at the time Brother had no update on their website. Took another month. I resorted to geekery to get it installed.

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    a brody a brody Jan 24, 2016 6:48 PM in response to dwb
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    Jan 24, 2016 6:48 PM in response to dwb

    It would appear that 10.11.2 (and confirmed in 10.11.3) brings back the automatic document feeder and the scanner of the Canon Pixma MX922 to Image Capture.  Thank you for Apple's developer connection to alert me they have at least repaired some of the issues.  Who knows what other scanners work.    Anyone who wishes to be a guinea pig is welcome to post to the thread.   You can always install 10.11 on a separate partition to test it without affecting your current environment.

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    a brody a brody Feb 5, 2016 5:54 PM in response to a brody
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    Feb 5, 2016 5:54 PM in response to a brody

    Apple has finally added some more printers as of January 27, 2016 to the support website.  I have updated my tip:

     

    http://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8811

     

    accordingly.

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    a brody a brody Mar 12, 2016 10:05 AM in response to a brody
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    Mar 12, 2016 10:05 AM in response to a brody

    Seeing as some printer drivers were not yet listed as updated, I dug up the other vendor info and updated my tip 8811.  It appears some vendors have already addressed the issue on their website.