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"Backups" using all available space on drive...

I am experiencing a problem regarding available space on my MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2012) running OS X El Capitan (10.11.1.)


For some time now I have received an error due to no available space on the drive. According to Finder I have 18,37 GB available on the built-in 121 GB Flash Storage, but according to About This Mac>Storage I only have 8,61 GB available.


- All of sudden 9,76 GB are used for 'Backups' (according to About This Mac>Storage.) (The 8,61 GB free space and the 9,76 GB for the "backups" amounts to the 18,37 GB that Finder shows as being available.)


I have "cleaned" the drive (using CleanMyMac 3) and tried re-indexing Spotlight as well without any luck.


I am using CleanMyMac 3 on a daily basis and I have just installed OmniDiskSweeper to see if I could find anything this way to solve the problem. Neither finds any backups or anything of that sort.


I have searched this forum and Google and have tried all the different suggestions but I have not been able to find a solution to my specific problem since all of the suggestions / solutions addresses issues with 'MobileBackups' and / or 'MobileBackups.Trash'. Neither of these folders exists (or have existed) on my drive (Finder is showing all hidden files / folders and the 'MobileBackups' and 'MobileBackups.Trash' folders are also not found via Terminal.) I am not and have not been using Time Machine at all and it has always been off.


Why are these "backups" suddenly occupying disk space and how do I delete them to free the space on the drive?


Thank you in advance.

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2012), OS X El Capitan (10.11.1)

Posted on Nov 27, 2015 9:16 AM

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Nov 27, 2015 9:55 AM in response to R C-R

Thank you for the response.


I have already read that article. The following excerpt from the article perplexes me though: "Local snapshots are automatically enabled when you turn on Time Machine, and they're disabled when you turn Time Machine off."


Time Machine is not - nor has it ever been - turned "on" on my machine. It has alway been turned "off." So why are there 9,76 GB (or any space for that matter) used for these "snapshots" on the drive when the feature in question - according to the article - should be disabled due to Time Machine being disabled? (And never having been enabled.)


The reason for me wanting to manually delete the "backups" is that I keep receiving the 'no available disk space' error. It seems somewhat strange for me having to tolerate the annoying error message and passively wait for OS X to potentially clean up and make space when "it" sees fit. 🙂

Nov 27, 2015 6:17 PM in response to Syredronning

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"CleanMyMac" is a scam and a common cause of instability and poor performance. Depending on what version you have, the developer's instructions may not completely remove it. Please follow those instructions, then do as below.

Back up all data before proceeding.

Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent.plist

Right-click or control-click the highlighted line and select

Services Reveal in Finder (or just Reveal)

from the contextual menu.* A folder may open with an item selected. If it does, move the selected item to the Trash. You may be prompted for your administrator login password.

Repeat with this line:

/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent

Restart the computer and empty the Trash.

You may also have to remove one or more of these items in the same way:

~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.helperTool.plist

~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.volumeWatcher.plist

~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac3.Scheduler.plist

Never again install "CleanMyMac" or anything like it.

*If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. In the Finder, select

Go Go to Folder...

from the menu bar and paste into the box that opens by pressing command-V. You may not see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

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For information about the Other category in the Storage display, see this support article. If the display seems to be inaccurate, try rebuilding the Spotlight index.

Empty the Trash if you haven't already done so. If you use iPhoto, empty its internal Trash first:

iPhoto ▹ Empty Trash

In Photos:

File Show Recently Deleted Delete All

Do the same in other applications, such as Aperture, that have an internal Trash feature. Then restart the computer. That will temporarily free up some space.

According to Apple documentation, you need at least 9 GB of available space on the startup volume (as shown in the Finder Info window) for normal operation—not the mythical 10%, 15%, or any other percentage. You also need enough space left over to allow for growth of the data. There is little or no performance advantage to having more available space than the minimum Apple recommends. Available storage space that you'll never use is wasted space.

When Time Machine backs up a portable Mac, some of the free space will be used to make local snapshots, which are backup copies of recently deleted files. The space occupied by local snapshots is reported as available by the Finder, and should be considered as such. In the Storage display of System Information, local snapshots are shown as Backups. The snapshots are automatically deleted when they expire or when free space falls below a certain level. You ordinarily don't need to, and should not, delete local snapshots yourself. If you followed bad advice to disable local snapshots by running a shell command, you may have ended up with a lot of data in the Other category. Ask for instructions in that case.

See this support article for some simple ways to free up storage space. A common waste of space is old iTunes backups of mobile devices. As illustrated in this support article, select the Devices tab in the iTunes preferences window, select the backups you want to delete, and click Delete Backups. Keep at least one backup of each device that you still use.

You can more effectively use a tool such as OmniDiskSweeper (ODS) or GrandPerspective (GP) to explore the volume and find out what's taking up the space. You can also delete files with it, but don't do that unless you're sure that you know what you're deleting and that all data is safely backed up. That means you have multiple backups, not just one. Note that ODS only works with OS X 10.8 or later. If you're running an older OS version, use GP.

Deleting files inside a photo or iTunes library will corrupt the library. Changes to such a library must be made from within the application that created it. The same goes for Mail files.

Proceed further only if the problem isn't solved by the above steps.

ODS or GP can't see the whole filesystem when you run it just by double-clicking; it only sees files that you have permission to read. To see everything, you have to run it as root.

Back up all data now.

Install the app in the Applications folder as usual. Quit it if it's running.

Triple-click anywhere in the corresponding line of text below on this page to select it, then copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

For ODS:

security execute-with-privileges /A*/OmniDiskSweeper.app/*/M*/* 2>&-

For GP:

security execute-with-privileges /A*/GrandPerspective.app/*/M*/* 2>&-

Launch the built-in Terminal application in any of the following ways:

☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

☞ Open LaunchPad and start typing the name.

Paste into the Terminal window by pressing command-V. You'll be prompted for your login password.

The application window will open behind other open windows. When you scan a volume, the window will eventually show all files in all folders, sorted by size. It may take a few minutes for the app to finish scanning.

I don't recommend that you make a habit of doing this. Don't delete anything as root. If something needs to be deleted, make sure you know what it is and how it got there, and then delete it by other, safer, means. When in doubt, leave it alone or ask for guidance.

When you're done with the app, quit it and also quit Terminal.

Nov 28, 2015 4:20 AM in response to Linc Davis

Linc Davis wrote:

According to Apple documentation, you need at least 9 GB of available space on the startup volume (as shown in the Finder Info window) for normal operation—not the mythical 10%, 15%, or any other percentage.

Can you explain where exactly in OS X Mavericks: If you see a gray screen at startup Apple says this? All I see regarding that (emphasis added) is:

If you have just installed OS X v10.8, make sure your Mac has at least 1 GB of memory and 9 GB of available disk space.

That article is archived, apparently applies only to Mavericks, & only seems to apply to just after installing it. AFAIK, the advice about the percentage of the drive that should be free for normal operation is not a myth, it is just a rule of thumb guideline, a very rough estimate based on the idea that the amount of free space needed for some operations is approximately proportional to the drive's capacity.

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