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Q: Is there a way to disable SIP without Recovery Partition?

I have an old Mac Pro (early 2009). Installing El Capitan I've come with a problem where my audio device is no more recognized by the system. As far as the Alesis team is not willing to release a new driver for it (audio interface Alesis IO26) I can only make it to work just by disabling System Integrity Protection. The prrblem is that I can't reboot in Recovery mode then go in Terminal and use csrutil disable. If I reboot and hold down Cmd + R nothing happen for me. My Mac doesn't have a Recovery Mode/Partition. So I'm asking if is there a way to disable it without entering the Recovery Mode. I just need it disabled. Some one can help me here? Thanks!

Posted on Nov 29, 2015 12:55 PM

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Q: Is there a way to disable SIP without Recovery Partition?

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  • by db24401,

    db24401 db24401 Nov 29, 2015 1:12 PM in response to Dakoom
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    Nov 29, 2015 1:12 PM in response to Dakoom

    Try Command + Option + R (internet recovery)

     

    Screen Shot 2015-11-29 at 4.12.02 PM.PNG

  • by bigschwabbel,Helpful

    bigschwabbel bigschwabbel Nov 29, 2015 4:05 PM in response to db24401
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    Nov 29, 2015 4:05 PM in response to db24401

    Internet Recovery would have been the easiest way. But an early 2009 Mac Pro is too old. Only these older models have received an updated firmware.

  • by bigschwabbel,Helpful

    bigschwabbel bigschwabbel Nov 29, 2015 4:03 PM in response to Dakoom
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    Nov 29, 2015 4:03 PM in response to Dakoom

    SIP can only be disable when booted from a recovery system.

     

    ATTENTION: Whatever you decide to do, have a recent backup of your data.

     

    Your options are:

    1. Check your boot menu for a recovery system. Boot your Mac with the OPTION key pressed.

    2. Check your system drive for a partition called "Recovery HD". Open Terminal and type "diskutil list". Hit ENTER.

    3. Repair your system drive by reinstalling El Capitan without erasing your data. That would create a new recovery partition. But that only works if your system drive doesn't contain a RAID configuration or an odd Bootcamp configuration.

    4. Make yourself a bootable El Capitan Installer flash drive. That would give you a recovery system.

    5. Install El Capitan on another drive. That would also create a recovery partition that you could use to disable SIP.

  • by Dakoom,

    Dakoom Dakoom Nov 29, 2015 4:05 PM in response to bigschwabbel
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    Nov 29, 2015 4:05 PM in response to bigschwabbel

    Thank you a lot guys for your replies.

     

    I think that I only have these two options now:

     

    4. Make yourself a bootable El Capitan Installer flash drive. That would give you a recovery system.

     

    -  I have a 40gb hard disk USB. How can I do it with it? I already have the El Capitan installed file downloaded.

     

    5. Install El Capitan on another drive. That would also create a recovery partition that you could use to disable SIP.

     

    - The same as above, how could I do this?

  • by leroydouglas,

    leroydouglas leroydouglas Nov 29, 2015 4:17 PM in response to Dakoom
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    Nov 29, 2015 4:17 PM in response to Dakoom

    From terminal there is a createinstallmedia command

     

    http://osxdaily.com/2015/09/30/create-os-x-el-capitan-boot-install-drive/

     

    Create a bootable installer for OS X - Apple Support

     

     

    sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app --nointeraction

  • by Dakoom,

    Dakoom Dakoom Nov 29, 2015 4:56 PM in response to leroydouglas
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    Nov 29, 2015 4:56 PM in response to leroydouglas

    Ok, done, then I have to hold down Option during install and then I'll find a terminal where I can use csruit disable, right?

     

    EDIT: I tried rebooting and the I pressed Option, but it doesn't work for me. Nothing happens and I'm redirected as normal to the login page.

  • by leroydouglas,

    leroydouglas leroydouglas Nov 29, 2015 5:42 PM in response to Dakoom
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    Nov 29, 2015 5:42 PM in response to Dakoom

    Yes restart holding the option key. You should see the startup manager— plugin your SDcard, USB or where ever you installed the Installer.

     

    Boot off the Installer,  Quit the installer if necessary, from the drop down menu you will see the terminal

  • by Dakoom,

    Dakoom Dakoom Nov 29, 2015 5:56 PM in response to leroydouglas
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    Nov 29, 2015 5:56 PM in response to leroydouglas

    It doesn't work for me. If I go to System Preferences - Start Disk I only have my current HD. The USB drive is not showing up.

  • by leroydouglas,

    leroydouglas leroydouglas Nov 29, 2015 6:06 PM in response to Dakoom
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    Nov 29, 2015 6:06 PM in response to Dakoom

    You may not see it in System Preferences— there is a known El Cap glitch there.

     

    Restart option key is the way forward.  Verify your createinstallmedia was carried out correctly. If it is not bootable it will not show up.

  • by Dakoom,

    Dakoom Dakoom Nov 29, 2015 6:16 PM in response to leroydouglas
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    Nov 29, 2015 6:16 PM in response to leroydouglas

    Nope, it is not working. I press Option key but nothing happens. I think the USB is working. I received no error message with the command line I entered before. Here is an image:

     

    http://s2.postimg.org/kbez9gard/Senza_titolo.png

     

    What else could I try?

  • by bigschwabbel,

    bigschwabbel bigschwabbel Nov 30, 2015 11:02 AM in response to Dakoom
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    Nov 30, 2015 11:02 AM in response to Dakoom

    To be honest with you, I'm not sure you're doing the "Restart + Option key" thing the right way. Please follow this procedure, just to be on the safe side.

     

    Remark: On some non-US keyboards the OPTION key is labeled as "ALT" or "alt". Again, just to be on the safe side.

     

    1. Shut down your Mac. Wait for it to completely turn itself off.

    2. Press and hold the OPTION key on your keyboard. While still pressing the OPTION key push the power button on your Mac. You're still keeping the OPTION key pressed.

    3. After a few seconds you will get one or more icons of your disk or disks. Everything that's bootable on your system will show up now. Let go of the OPTION key now. One of the icons should say "Macintosh HD" or whatever you've named your system drive. Another icon should be named "Install OS X El Capitan".

    4. Choose the drive called "Install OS X El Capitan". Your Mac should now boot the OS X Installer environment.

    5. When the menu bar appears at the top of your screen, choose "Utilities -> Terminal" and continue with the csrutil command.

     

    If that's what you have done, and it still doesn't work, you might have an odd hardware or software configuration or a defect.

     

    Just a thought:

    I have a Mac Pro (mid 2012) here with a Sonnet Tempo PCIe card, which connects my SSDs to my system. I can't access the boot menu while this card is installed. Do you by any chance have a card or other hardware installed, that might prevent you from using the boot menu?

  • by Dakoom,

    Dakoom Dakoom Nov 30, 2015 12:03 PM in response to bigschwabbel
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    Nov 30, 2015 12:03 PM in response to bigschwabbel

    Thank you so much! Now it works and I get back my Audio Interface! Thank you! Thank you!

    Basically I was holding down the Option key after the Mac was started, not before the Power On button! This was the problem!

    Thank you all for your help!

  • by Duane Maas,

    Duane Maas Duane Maas Jun 29, 2016 6:57 AM in response to bigschwabbel
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    Jun 29, 2016 6:57 AM in response to bigschwabbel

    If you have another computer with Yosemite or earlier installed, you can boot that computer, then mount the computer with El Capitan on the hard drive using target mode copy your files to the /System directory.