Source Apple Certified Pre-Owned iPhone 5, iPhone 5s in Europe

Well, an actual Apple Store comes to mind 😁

And if you scroll to the bottom of the page here and click on the link to find a reseller, you can look up actual Apple Authorized Resellers anywhere in the world.

Other than Apple itself, or an Apple Authorized reseller listed here, there is no reliable source of any Apple product.

Look on the UK Apple Store - https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/ or go to the bottom of the store page and change to whatever country you like.

And if you specifically mean certified pre-owned iPhone's, there is no such thing at all. Apple does NOT sell refurbished iPhones at retail, nor do they authorize anyone to do so. Individual companies may sell "certified" pre-owned but you would have to ask them what the heck they actually mean by that. Certified pre-owned iPhones are NOT available from Apple nor from any Apple Authorized reseller.

The only legitimate source of "pre-owned" iPhones in the retail market would be carriers who offer their own in-house refurbishment (which is NOT Apple factory refurbishment). But they should not be packaging the devices to appear as if direct from Apple.

The fact they are even printing that on boxes apparently meant to mimic authentic Apple refurbished products makes me think they are pure illegal scam artists.

Lok, you are free to believe whatever you like. But Apple has NEVER sold refurbished or pre-owned iPhones at retail. The only way to ever get a non factory new iPhone direct from Apple was as a service unit, which were only available as OEM factory refurbished devices under in-warranty or out of warranty exchange units, NOT sold by Apple or any Apple Authorized reseller.

So whatever those phones are (and I don't really care what the sellers motivation is) they are NOT Apple Authorized refurbished or pre-owned or anything else since Apple does NOT sell iPhones that way and never has.

For all I know they could be simply stolen iPhones, cleverly packaged up to look like some sort of "official" pre-owned offering to sell to any unsuspecting consumer who walks in the door. Scams like that are a dime a dozen around the world.

traktor15 wrote:

Maybe. Then what do you think about the photo I took? Why would someone fake an Apple packaging to sell real iPhones in it at an otherwise reasonable price? This doesn't add up.

And the fact that they were selling bogus iPads within days of the original iPads introduction in Hong Kong, packaged in "certified by Apple" should tell you something, doesn't it? You have been told:

1). Apple does not sell or package " certified pre-owned" anything.

2). The phones are probably a scam

3). If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

In the end you are free to believe and buy what you wish; your money, your loss.

Look, you have been told that there is no such thing as an "Apple certified pre-owned" iPhone. If you chose to believe that what several people have told you is wrong, act on your beliefs. But you have been warned.

What does the warranty have to do with bogus claims by non-certified sellers?

Regardless of what you wish to be true or are fishing for, there simple is and has never been, any such thing as an Apple certified pre-owned iphone for sale from a legitimate retail reseller. I honestly don't care what the sellers motivation is, their source is, their business "model" is. You asked is it legitimate, and NO it is NOT.

As far as Apple authorized resellers go, any and EVERY SINGLE one is listed on Apple's web site at https://locate.apple.com/ under the reseller link at the bottom of the Apple web site page (adjust accordingly for your country) and if they are NOT listed there, they are NOT an Apple Authoriized reseller, no matter what they may say or advertise to you.

Buy from whomever you like, it's your money. But there IS NO SUCH THING as an Apple AUTHORIZED certified pre-owned iPhone.

So I am done with this thread. You want an unbelievable deal to be believeable, and it is NOT. But spend your money as you wish.

traktor15 wrote:

It's not Hong Kong; it's Yurop.

It is irrelevant whether it is HK, Europe, the US, India, wherever. My point is that there are gray market stores that sell questionable goods along with legitimate ones everywhere in the world. I picked HK because it was an example that I personally saw. Your real world examples of Amazon are pointless as Amazon (and its resellers) are not an authorized Apple distributors. You have already been pointed as to where you can buy legitimate, authorized Apple goods and you have been told that there is no such thing as Apple certified pre owned. Your question has been answered. You are free to do what you wish and you have been warned. In the end, nobody here cares what you do.

traktor15 wrote:

With all the PayPal, credit card and legal protection, and social media customer feedback on the shops, I'm pretty confident in buying from any of them, even though I don't speak much German.

Thanks for your attention.

Ok, so buy using the store, if you feel confident. Your question has been answered.