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Will upgrading to my old MacBook Pro from Mavericks to El Capitan speed things up? If not, how do I rollback?

My trusty old MBP (15-inch, Mid 2009; Processor 2,8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo; Memory 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3; Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB/9600M GT 512 MB; Software OS X 10.9.5 (13F1134); positively ancient, I know!) is really giving me a hard time. And I'm not even talking video editing or other heavy duty work; no, simple word processing, browsing, etc.; the kinds of things that NEVER used put any strain on the old girl. But nowadays, JEEZ!


So, can anyone advise? Would upgrading to El Capitan make things better or worse?


I've done multiple Disk Repairs and Verifies - from Recovery Mode - even a defragmentation with iDefrag (for what it's worth, right?), but still no luck. So, I'm of a mind that an OS refresh would breathe some new life into my dear old steed before I finally retire her when I can afford to next year.

I'm just dreading that I'll make things worse! So, can I backup with Time Machine and then just rollback to Mavericks if the proverbial poo hits the fan?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks!

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

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Posted on Dec 7, 2015 4:25 AM

I think you need to check out your system first. Download and install this app which will tell us something of what is going on to make your system so slow. http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck


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Dec 8, 2015 12:06 AM in response to EyeGod

Answering both posts.


Although you should be seeing some improvement in speed now I would not go on to El Capitan. Stay where you are. I think you are looking to be encouraged to replace this machine anyway, at which time El Capitan will be there to have.


Sometimes you cannot remove all of a file with whatever way you uninstall it. An Etre Check will still show traces of it and Easy Find will help you locate all those remaining bits for deletion. There is another useful app known as Find any File that some say offers better results.


Keep on removing as much of Google as you can.

Dec 8, 2015 5:47 AM in response to EyeGod

Have you yet looked, using activity monitor, for processes that are slowing it down? If none are, your hunting is in vain.

Is the presumption that google apps were compatible with 10.10 but not 10.11, since som many people use them, i find that hard to believe.


Go back and read my post. You may nto like it, but i think its the real answer. While replacing your machine with a shiny new toy may be attractive, i can assure you its nto necessary.


Im typing this on one now. And it also runs engineering simulations. And other simulations in a windows virtual machine.

Dec 8, 2015 8:51 AM in response to Grant Lenahan

So, you retrofitted your old MBP with a new SSD and it breathed new life into the unit? I've been toying with the idea; it definitely is an option - a cheaper one at that - but as I mentioned in my response to John, can I justify buying a new SSD (I'd want a 500Gb unit; pricey!) AND a new battery for such an old machine? Shouldn't I just take the plunge and get a new MBP altogether?


Anyhow, I'm checking Activity Monitor as I write this, and all I can see chowing resources under CPU is "usbmuxd" and "kernel_task"; after that it's "Safari Web Content, iTunes," and "Safari." Under the Memory tab, it's much of the same. So nothing out of the ordinary here, though I've not been blasting on full cylinders since rebooting yesterday (normally I've a few full screen Pages docs open, running in the region of 20 Safari tabs (bad habit, I know), playing Apple Music via iTunes, running Mail, iMessages and Skype all in the background, in full screen tabs). I'll have to see how things go when I do that. Otherwise, I've seen a marked improvement after removing Rapport. Amazing.

Dec 8, 2015 8:55 AM in response to seventy one

Sir! This has really made a difference, at least insofar as I can tell from use over the last few hours/course of yesterday and today. How can it be that Rapport was consuming so much of my system's resources?


Moving on, can you advise:


[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [Click for support]

Should I use Easy Find to find these specific files and just trash them? Every *.google.* one? **** Google, trust them to just wreck everything, haha...

Dec 8, 2015 9:42 AM in response to EyeGod

I'm so pleased to read that. I rather hoped it would help things and looking at your memory usage, that has indeed improved. I'm prompted to say that you might want to run with things as they are for a while and see. Trusteer is well known to cause problems though I've never seen quite such a change.


As far as Easy Find is concerned, just play with it and see what it can do. The developer is very helpful, If I recall, he will respond to questions directly but you really only need it when you are positively looking to remove things.


Google isn't entirely bad news. (just 90%)

Dec 8, 2015 10:12 AM in response to EyeGod

EyeGod wrote:


Hi John


Yes I am; hence my apprehension in regards to replacing my HDD with an SSD; if I do that, I might as well drop the cash on a new battery, and if I do that, I might just as well go and get a brand new MBP, cos why bother spending that much money on an ageing machine?


That is what I'm thinking also.

Dec 8, 2015 11:07 AM in response to EyeGod

EyeGod:


So, you retrofitted your old MBP with a new SSD and it breathed new life into the unit?

Yes, but then, mine was never slow.


(I'd want a 500Gb unit; pricey!)

Not really, you can find them for $150 or so now. Make sure you enable TRIM with a 3rd party app liek TRIM enabler.


AND a new battery for such an old machine? Shouldn't I just take the plunge and get a new MBP altogether?

A new 15" MBP is like $2000, those parts are like $300. You do the math.


Anyhow, I'm checking Activity Monitor as I write this, and all I can see chowing resources under CPU is "usbmuxd" and "kernel_task";

The first is mysterious - google it. The second depends on what processes you are running. What task?


Under the Memory tab, it's much of the same.

No its not. It will show a color, compression level, and paging activity if any


I've seen a marked improvement after removing Rapport. Amazing.

not amazing at all. Lots of 3rd party utils are awful.

Dec 9, 2015 1:31 AM in response to Grant Lenahan

Well, amazing for me cos I really thought that this MBP was just way past its sell-by date; turns out it's got some life in it yet.


As for purchasing those parts, bear in mind that I live in South Africa. Cheapest I can get the drive you linked to here is around $226. That excludes a new battery. And I still end up with a system that doesn't have USB3 capabilities.


Still considerably cheaper, but I really need to weigh up the pros and cons.


Nonetheless, big thanks to everyone for the tips and advice; much appreciated.

Dec 9, 2015 1:35 AM in response to seventy one

Hi again, seventy one


So, I'm of a mind to just use Easy Find to trash the following:


[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [Click for support]

Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 [Click for support]

googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 5.41.0.0 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]


Good or bad idea?

Will upgrading to my old MacBook Pro from Mavericks to El Capitan speed things up? If not, how do I rollback?

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