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Q: SheepShaver on MBP

I have been able to install OS9.04 on a 1.5Gb disk image in SheepShaver, but I can't make the disk image the boot disk, even though the startup disk shows it as highlighted. It just keeps booting from the OS9.04 CD.

Any suggestions?

David

MBP17", Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Nov 17, 2006 4:35 PM

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  • by Jeff Bailey,

    Jeff Bailey Jeff Bailey Nov 17, 2006 4:41 PM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 17, 2006 4:41 PM in response to David Jones 4
    Can you post the contents of your .sheepshaver_prefs file? That might help.
  • by David Jones 4,

    David Jones 4 David Jones 4 Nov 18, 2006 12:58 PM in response to Jeff Bailey
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    Nov 18, 2006 12:58 PM in response to Jeff Bailey
    Jeff,

    The pref file contains:

    extfs /
    windowmodes 0
    screenmodes 0
    seriala /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
    serialb /dev/null
    bootdrive 0
    bootdriver 0
    ramsize 67108864
    windowmodes 7
    frameskip 8
    gfxaccel true
    nocdrom false
    nonet false
    nosound false
    nogui false
    noclipconversion false
    ignoresegv false
    pollmedia true
    jit true
    jit68k false
    keyboardtype 5
    keycodes false
    mousewheelmode 1
    mousewheellines 3
    dsp /dev/dsp
    mixer /dev/mixer
    ignoresegv false
    idlewait true
    rom /Users/mike/SS/MacOSROM
    extfs /Users/mike/SS/Shared
    disk /Users/mike/SS/diskimage
    ether slirp

    which I copied from one of the help sites. I think I put it in my home folder, but of course when you add the period in front it becomes invisible.

    This raises another issue. The install info for the later version of SheepShaver dated mid 2006, makes no mention of creating this pref file. The following site:

    http://theappleblog.com/2006/07/01/classic-on-intel-macs-courtesy-of-sheepshaver /

    says nothing about this pref file. Perhaps the fact that I have the pref file installed in my home folder is overriding any pref file which the mid 2006 version might create automatically!

    I'm no programmer, so a concise lits of instruction would be good.

    Incidentally, the only way I could get SheepShaver to recognise a HD image was to create it with Disk Utility in OSX. I then was able to install OS9 on it from the OS9.04 boot CD. Curiously, when I tried looking at the HD image using Drive Setup on the OS9 boot CD, it did not see it. Do I need somehow to designate the disk image as bootable?

    When you create the disk image in OSX, it lists 4 possible formats: read only, compressed, read/write, DVD/CD master. I presume read/write should be the choice? Encryption lists: none, AES-128 (recommended). I think it was none by default. What do you think?

    What part of the world are you in Jeff? I am in Australia where the time is about 8am Sunday. Thanks.

    David
  • by Jeff Bailey,

    Jeff Bailey Jeff Bailey Nov 18, 2006 3:39 PM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 18, 2006 3:39 PM in response to David Jones 4
    David:

    I'm not an expert, but I've a little experience debugging SheepShaver problems. It sounds like you did everything right, except if you used the newer GUI version (as described on the website you pointed to) you don't need to copy or create the prefs file; the GUI does it for you. I'd suggest deleting your ~/.sheepshaver_prefs file and restarting the GUI to have it created again for you. You should be able to point to the disk image file you've already created so you won't have to install MacOS 9 again, etc.

    One problem I see in the prefs file is two instances of "extfs" definitions (shared directories). You can only share one directory, and specifying two may cause problems. Who knows.

    Cheers from California, Jeff

    MBP, MB, PMac G5, a few Linuxes   Mac OS X (10.4.8)  
  • by David Jones 4,

    David Jones 4 David Jones 4 Nov 18, 2006 5:29 PM in response to Jeff Bailey
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    Nov 18, 2006 5:29 PM in response to Jeff Bailey
    Jeff,

    Thanks. What is the easiest way to delete these invisible files? When I have deleted the prefs file, I assume the next time I launch SheepShaver, it will create a replacemrent prefs file?

    What part of sunny California are you from?

    David
  • by Jeff Bailey,

    Jeff Bailey Jeff Bailey Nov 18, 2006 8:38 PM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 18, 2006 8:38 PM in response to David Jones 4
    You should do this in Terminal.app. The command to execute is

    "rm -i .SheepShaver*" (with no quotes)

    If all goes well, the next time you open SheepShaverGui.app and set your preferences again the files will be re-created.

    -Jeff (from just outside of Santa Cruz, CA)
  • by David Jones 4,

    David Jones 4 David Jones 4 Nov 18, 2006 9:11 PM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 18, 2006 9:11 PM in response to David Jones 4
    Jeff,

    I downloaded Rinkertool and deleted the invisible files, but I can't still boot of the disk image.

    David
  • by David Jones 4,

    David Jones 4 David Jones 4 Nov 18, 2006 11:43 PM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 18, 2006 11:43 PM in response to David Jones 4
    Jeff,

    As I said, I deleted the prefs using Tinkertool, but no luck in booting off the disk image. So I created a second disk image, installed OS9.04 on it as well and then set it as the startup disk, but SS still boots off the OS9 CD.

    Any more thoughts?

    David
  • by David Jones 4,

    David Jones 4 David Jones 4 Nov 19, 2006 3:57 AM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 19, 2006 3:57 AM in response to David Jones 4
    Jeff,

    I read on the apple blog that by creating a disk image on a Mac booted in OS9, and copying it to the MBP would solve the problem.

    It worked! Now I can boot off that HD image. The last remaining problem is that I wish to bring in some OS9 applications such as ClarisCAD and PowerCADD 2000. When I do so they come up as documents, not applications. I read that if they were transferred from OSX to the SS HD disk image on the OSX side, that when SS was launched they would become applications. So far - no success. I am looking forward to a new version of SS which might solve some of these issues.

    David
  • by David Jones 4,

    David Jones 4 David Jones 4 Nov 19, 2006 1:05 PM in response to David Jones 4
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    Nov 19, 2006 1:05 PM in response to David Jones 4
    Jeff,

    Finally success! By placing the OS9 applications in a folder and then in OSX copying the folder across to the OS9 HD image, then opening the folder in SS and then opening the applications, all is well.

    ClarisCAD, PowerCADD 2000 are all working fine. There is an OSX native version of PowerCADD. PowerCADD 2000 is capable of importing ClarisCAD files, and then PowerCADD 7 (OSX native) can open PowerCADD 2000 files. Hence I can import ClarisCAD files into PowerCADD7 for use in OSX Intel just using a Intel Mac, and I have thousands of ClarisCAD files.

    Thank for your help!

    David Jones