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Upload mp4 to Apple TV 4?

Greetings,

Anyone have any suggestions about how to upload mp4s to the new Apple TV 4?

I’ve been searching for info on this topic, but haven’t run across anything yet. I got the 64 Gig so it has plenty of space to store media.


I looked around in the TVOS store, but didn’t see anything obvious. Also, searched the web and apple forums, without any luck. Yes TVOS is so new yet that a lot of features are not out or even obvious yet. But there are articles that say that TVOS app store has more than 2500 apps, that sure isn’t obvious looking thru the store. Storing media to play locally seems like a pretty obvious use for this device. Kinda surprised I haven’t run across anything yet. Not even sure what apps are used for playing local media on ATV4…


I used AppleTV3 for a year. It took a couple weeks getting use to the UI changes and discovering some nice but hidden improvements. But I’m pretty happy with it now. will be really nice when we can store media locally, streaming from a mac is pretty clunky…


Any suggestions for uploading content will be appreciated.


Thanks-

Jeffery

Posted on Dec 15, 2015 8:31 PM

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Posted on Dec 16, 2015 3:56 AM

You can't store content on the Apple TV 4, you should either stream it from the internet if it is purchased content or use home sharing to stream it from iTunes on your computer.

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Dec 21, 2015 9:21 AM in response to Winston Churchill

Thanks for your replies. I thought that might be the case since ATV4 is so new and the previous versions of ATV didn't store anything.


I’ve tried “home sharing” from time to time, but HS has problems that make it not very useful for me. I’ve used HS both between my macs and also from mac to ATV. One of the biggest problems is that home sharing never increments play counts on my iTunes server. Besides the fact that I like to see what music I play more than others, this issue means that podcasts are not marked as played. So I end up hearing programming multiple times in home sharing and then I’ll still hear it again when listening to my iPod. It annoys me enough that I just plug in my iPod to my macs to hear media when I am not using my iTunes mac. I tested HS again with ATV4 and it still doesn’t work right.


For my set up, I have my previous (older) MBPro I use as my music server connected to my TV via HDMI. So I don't need or use the ATV to play thing locally. My ATV is connected to my router via ethernet. My newer MBPro for general use, uses the Netgear wireless router connection.


My current setup with Mac/iTunes + HDMI is a little kludgy since one has to keep going to the the mac/iTunes to find and pick what to play. I have a collection of music videos from CD/DVDs that I bought, most of which aren’t on the internet either. I even have a few DVDs of performances that unfortunately were PAL format and not playable on my DVD player. So I copied them to my Mac. Don’t watch visual media in iTunes too often because of the inconvenience.


Direct internet streaming works quite nicely with any ATV. Streaming wirelessly from a local Mac to an ATV works great at my work for running presentations. But at home for entertainment, streaming wirelessly from a Mac to ATV is pretty inconvenient since one really has to be at their Mac to do much. I stream some programming from internet thru my Mac to my ATV, but performance/quality isn’t ideal and can vary with internet/wireless and mac issues. Streaming from a mac is obviously needed for the large amount of media on the internet that doesn't have streaming apps, in my case like my local independent public television KCET and This Old House website I like. Video playback is never as smooth when using mac/ATV combination.


In the long run, I certainly hope and expect media storage on ATV4 to change. My 64 Gig iPhone stores data and doesn't streaming from the internet or Mac. Since TVOS is based upon IOS and the device has the same amount of storage, it seems reasonable to expect that some apps will be able to store media in the not so distant future. If Apple doesn't have anything fairly soon, seems like a great opportunity for 3rd party. (VLC perhaps? its already on IOS)


My preferred set up would be to copy any video related media from my mac/iTunes to my ATV4 so I can just use the TV+ATV with visual media, and use my Mac/iTunes which is connected to Stereo system to use with audio media. At least this was one of the main reasons I bought the ATV4 instead of sticking with the previous ATV.


Anyway, Thanks for your replies.


my $0.02

Dec 21, 2015 11:42 AM in response to Jeffery Nunes

One of the biggest problems is that home sharing never increments play counts on my iTunes server.

This has to be something specific to your set up, I've never had this problem with either the Apple TV 1, 2 or 3. I understand that a number of people were complaining there was a problem with the Apple TV 4, which I believe to be the case, however I tested this a few hours back and found the plays incremented correctly, so whatever the issue was, it seems to be no more.

But at home for entertainment, streaming wirelessly from a Mac to ATV is pretty inconvenient since one really has to be at their Mac to do much.

What exactly is your workflow here, I never visit my Mac when using any of my Apple TV's to stream content from it using home sharing.

Video playback is never as smooth when using mac/ATV combination.

I assume you are referring to AirPlay here, yes AirPlay (especially from a Mac) needs a fairly robust network, so if you get stuttering and the like you need to look at your network to improve things, it's not something that Apple can do anything about.

In the long run, I certainly hope and expect media storage on ATV4 to change.

It may well do as a result of popular demand, but that doesn't mean to say it will ever be useful. 64 GB just isn't enough storage for the typical user to keep movies on, my library for example is around 6 TB, I just wouldn't be interested in having to choose 20 movies from the thousands I have just for the Apple TV. Whilst I acknowledge that Apple may well bow to demand, I don't really expect them to, but's only my opinion.

Dec 21, 2015 12:31 PM in response to Winston Churchill

This has to be something specific to your set up, I've never had this problem with either the Apple TV 1, 2 or 3. I understand that a number of people were complaining there was a problem with the Apple TV 4, which I believe to be the case, however I tested this a few hours back and found the plays incremented correctly, so whatever the issue was, it seems to be no more.


This happens with home sharing regardless of what iTunes client I use. I have 2 MBPros at home and a separate MBPro for my work also. I tried HS many times between my macs and both my ATV. I've used ATV3 for a year now before buying the new ATV4. In addition to my home MBPro, sometimes I have tired HS with my work MBPro as the client without success. I can check a song or a podcast on my iTunes server (which is a dedicated MBPro that is connected to my stereo and my TV), then from either my work MBPro, my home MBPro (which is not my iTunes server), my ATV3, or my ATV4, I play the song and the play count does not change on the iTunes server no matter how many times i play it remotely. So in my case, this is not related to the ATV4. If it is not supposed to work this way, then it must be a bug...


But at home for entertainment, streaming wirelessly from a Mac to ATV is pretty inconvenient since one really has to be at their Mac to do much.

What exactly is your workflow here, I never visit my Mac when using any of my Apple TV's to stream content from it using home sharing.

I was referring to the circumstances where I have to use a web browser for some internet content because those organizations do not have a streaming client. For example, "this old house" has their programming only on a website. If I want to watch their shows, it requires a web browser, which ATV does not have. So for this circumstance, I use my MBPro that is NOT my iTunes server. Then I use airplay and make an extended desktop which appears on the ATV. I move the webpage to the ATV desktop and play the videos that way. So pausing the video or starting the next video in the series involves the MBPro, not the ATV. the ATV is only a dumb monitor in those cases.


I know there would be complications and some people wouldn't like it, but I wish there were a version of Safari for ATV for this limited cases.


Thanks again for your reply! very nice of you to answer back...

Dec 21, 2015 12:52 PM in response to Winston Churchill

I mistakenly hit "command S" and posted before finishing the edit...


So, are you telling me that when you use home sharing, that any iTunes client you use does correctly increment the play count? is this true between 2 macs? also worked right with multiple ATVs? is this true for any kind of media? music? podcasts? music videos?

If this is so, I wonder what's wrong with mine???


In the long run, I certainly hope and expect media storage on ATV4 to change.

It may well do as a result of popular demand, but that doesn't mean to say it will ever be useful. 64 GB just isn't enough storage for the typical user to keep movies on, my library for example is around 6 TB, I just wouldn't be interested in having to choose 20 movies from the thousands I have just for the Apple TV. Whilst I acknowledge that Apple may well bow to demand, I don't really expect them to, but's only my opinion.


Yes I understand. There will be about as many different ways to set up things as there are people trying it out.


My case is probably fairly limited that I have a small amount of video media to store. I'm old fashion with my library of DVDs of my favorite movies and my large collection of CDs. I still prefer DVDs because they just work very reliably. Streaming has improved, but there are still network or software hiccups sometimes that drive me crazy. Lately, my iPhone/Mac issues has been driving me crazy to point I don't really want to deal with them. But that is different post...


My music and other audio only fits on the 120G iPods. So I have waited all these year for the IOS iPod big enough. My audio collection wouldn't fit on the ATV and I wouldn't want to have to turn on the ATV to listen to music. That is why I have a stereo... Even though I've held out for the large capacity iPod, I think the market is obviously big enough with enough diversity of needs that Apple can still make small capacity iPods, like those for runners etc that have a small enough collection or don't need everything... But there has been lots of press that iPods are not a very big market for Apple anymore...


Thanks again for your reply!

Dec 21, 2015 1:15 PM in response to Jeffery Nunes

So, are you telling me that when you use home sharing, that any iTunes client you use does correctly increment the play count? is this true between 2 macs? also worked right with multiple ATVs? is this true for any kind of media? music? podcasts? music videos?

If this is so, I wonder what's wrong with mine???

I don't home share between Macs, but yes for everything else, except podcasts which I'd need to test since I rarely play podcasts. here's another discussionthat's ongoing about play counts and the Apple TV 4, which worked for me earlier today but obviously still seems to be an issue for some, the point being however is that participants clearly maintain that play count works on earlier models.

Dec 23, 2015 10:40 AM in response to Tom Kirsch

NO that is incorrect. The USB port on the ATV is not for general use its for service/restore...


http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/09/new-apple-tv-uses-usb-c-for-service-di tches-optical-audio-out-port


The Apple TV also holds the distinction of being Apple's second device with a USB-C port, though most users likely won't access it. Unlike with the 12-inch MacBook, which uses the USB-C port for both charging and syncing, the USB-C connection on the Apple TV will only be used for diagnostics purposes.

Dec 23, 2015 11:33 AM in response to Protodd

Protodd - my comment was innocent enough and was based on Apple TV User Guide which states "

“If Apple TV still doesn’t respond, disconnect the power and HDMI cables from Apple TV. Connect one end of a USB-C cable (sold separately) to Apple TV and the other end to your computer. Open iTunes on your computer, select Apple TV in the Source list, then select Restore.”


Excerpt From: Apple Inc. “Apple TV User Guide.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/-zlM-.l


Going back to the 1st Gen Apple TV everyone wanted to use the USB input on that device. As time passed and some good hacks later people were able to link hard drives to increase storage capacity. Just saying that Jeffery may figure something out beyond the obvious. Don't let "can't" get in the way of creativity.

Dec 23, 2015 11:41 AM in response to Tom Kirsch

Thats correct. From your except "...select restore". only the 1st gen ATV supported connected storage for personal media. Every gen since have not included storage support. Instead Apple has gone the "homeshare" route for accessing personal media On your local network via wifi/Ethernet. You won't find any "storage" functionality via the onboard USB connection.


yes, if you want to hack and jailbreak the device you may be able to accomplish that desired end result. However, that would void the warranty and support so would not be discussed in this apple user community based upon the T&C we agreed to upon signing up for the community...

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