Q: Why does my apple ID enable all phones to see each other's stuff? That's idiotic.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:41 AMby Michael Black,Regardless of your opinion about how it should work, the simple reality that if you share a single AppleID for your iCloud, iMessage and FaceTime accounts then yes, each device will share all content for those accounts. The ONLY solution is to use separate AppleIDs for those services.
You can still use a single AppleID for the iTunes and App stores, or you can set up family sharing for those things.
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Dec 25, 2015 11:05 AMby Japple68,On each device:
make sure that messages aren't being forwarded by each phone:
>settings >messages >Text Message Forwarding
make sure that content isn't automatically downloaded to devices:
>settings >iTunes & App Store >Automatic Downloads
to stop contacts being shared, you need to be sure that you aren't synching to the iCloud (even if the iCloud Drive option is switched off, contacts will sync if they are switched on:
>settings >mail, contacts, calendars >iCloud [then switch the relevant options off
HTH
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Dec 25, 2015 11:14 AMby Scottm1207,I guess my frustration with something that is designed to make certain things easy make other things so difficult. Our family really does not want to share all our stuff with the one exception of the music we buy. If we want to share a photo or movie, we'll send it to the other person. And I want one account from which we can make purchases.
But I don't want to have to have each of us reset our settings every time an update is done on our phones to go back to not synching each other's stuff and get each other's messages. That is one of the biggest pains we've had.
It seems as though since our phones have separate names and numbers an serial numbers that it should not have to be required to change settings to tell Apple to keep our information separate. We should only have to do those settings to integrate that information when we choose to do so.
So I guess the only solution is to set up separate Apple IDs for each user then try to figure out the problems that will create, as they arise. SMH
But thanks for the help. I'll try to figure out how to get this done.
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Dec 25, 2015 11:23 AMby Japple68,In that section I can see the following options, in this order:
iMessgae
Show Contact Photos
Text Message Forwarding
Send Receipts
Send as SMS
Send & Receive (look at and change these setting as well)
MMS Messaging
Show Subject Field
Character Count
Blocked
Keep Messages
Filter Unknown Senders
Expire
Raise to Listen
Expire
Which of these can't you see?
Rgds.
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Dec 25, 2015 11:34 AMby Scottm1207,I have almost all of those except Text Message Forwarding and I have Group Messaging showing between MMS Messaging and Show Subject Field.
And part of the problem I'm having is that overtime one of us in the family does any update, it resets the Send & Receive back so we have another number checked.
Now mind you, it's not all the family member's numbers who are visible in the Send & Receive section. It's randomly one or two other numbers out of the three others in the family.
It just shouldn't be this difficult to distinguish between devices and users and keep the settings we each had from update to update.
Pardon my frustration, but I just don't understand why it's such a difficult and common issue with this expensive of a set of devices.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:10 PMby Japple68,Okay - text message forwarding is something that I believe is activated when you switch on iMessage. IF it isn't showing on your phone, then I would suspect your messages aren't being forwarded. However, if someone has got iMessage switched on on their phone then you need to check the "Send & Receive" and "Text Message Forwarding" on their phone to be certain they aren't receiving your messages or that their messages aren't being sent onwards to you.
Turning off all the sync settings in iCloud should make sure that none of your devices are affected by updates done on another phone.
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Dec 25, 2015 1:48 PMby Michael Black,IiMessage, iCloud and FaceTime are each independent services from Apple that any one person may choose to use on multiple devices that they own or control. As such, they are effectively subscription services tied to an AppleID. If you use the same AppleID for those services on multiple devices, each is in fact using the exact same subscription service account and will share the same content. If you dont want that then everyone needs to get a separate AppleID for those free subscription services from Apple. It's very simple really, if you don't want to share those services then each person needs to sign up for them Using their own AppleID.
if you do that you will NEVER have any issues with sharing content - before, during or after any updates, new devices, etc.
As I said you can continue to use a single AppleID for iTunes and App Store purchased content or you can use family sharing. Anybody can have multiple appleids and use different ones with different services.
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Dec 25, 2015 2:12 PMby LACAllen,Think of this ...
You can't share a phone number. I think we all see that as making sense. look up "party line" and see what used to be the norm in the telephone's early days.
In the past, an Apple ID did not "do" what it does today. Now it's more like a phone number and must be unique so it can isolate the various things it does.
