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Q: time machine back up

I purchased a Seagate Backup Plus Slim back up 1 TB for windows and Mac. I have a Macbook Pro late 2011 10.8.5. I plugged it in and went to time machine to begin the backup and it indicated that the disk was not usable because it needed to be formated? How do I do this?

MacBook Pro, iOS 9

Posted on Dec 30, 2015 4:23 PM

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  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,Solvedanswer

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 8:59 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 8:59 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    A slightly different approach would be to get a USB thumb drive at least 8GB,

    Using "regular" Mac OS X, not Recovery:

    Download DiskMakerX

    Download the version of Mac OS X you want, BUT ...

    It waits for your input before proceeding with the Install. Stop it at that point.

    Before it installs, use DiskMakerX to create an Installer onto the Thumb drive.

    Boot to the Thumb drive.

     

    Then use the Utilities on the thumb drive to erase your drive and re-Install.

     

    Since you now have the Installer in hand, you can move forward with confidence knowing that the Internet connection and the Mac App Store will not leave you stranded.

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 9:11 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 9:11 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Grant,

    1.  I tried both options of  i) command-r - which gave me the message of "temporarily unavilable, try again later (it actually said that)" and ii) option-command-r which, after waiting awhile, said "connection failed."

     

    2.  when I hit command-r, I had the choice of recovery HD or Mac HD to do the reinstall - I did not choose the recovery one, rather, I chose the Mac HD.  Perhaps I should be using the recovery one?

     

    3.  When you explained the Wi-Fi requirements, is this necessary regardless of whether I use the recovery HD or Mac HD?  Again, perhaps I should be trying the recovery HD option to by-pass all of those Wi-Fi issues.

     

    4.  I tried plugging in to both the modem and the router to bypass Wi-Fi and got the same error messages.  I also went to Staples to use their Wi-Fi and got the same error messages.

     

    5.  I also need to clarify what you mean by "erase your drive"  - will my files be retained in all of this?  It doesn't matter too much because I did a time machine back up of all 489 GB - I just want to know if my computer is being wiped to original state or just the operating system.

     

    6.  If I use the disk utility in recovery HD, is there anything I need to know about options to press so I'm not wondering in the middle of it?

     

    Thank you.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 11:13 AM in response to cindyjj
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    Jan 2, 2016 11:13 AM in response to cindyjj

    5.  I also need to clarify what you mean by "erase your drive"  - will my files be retained in all of this?  It doesn't matter too much because I did a time machine back up of all 489 GB - I just want to know if my computer is being wiped to original state or just the operating system.

     

    Erase your drive means get rid of everything on it, yes that includes your files. No they will not be retained.

     

    • a simple re-install in place replaces any damaged components of Mac OS, in theory without deleting anything else.

     

    • an erase followed by an Install removes everything, then installs a fresh copy of Mac OS X -- you would need to restore your files and third-party Applications separately.

     

    ¿what is your motivation for doing this?

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 11:52 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 11:52 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    The sound on my computer has been glitchy ever since I purchased and downloaded Boom volume enhancer.  I properly uninstalled it even with tech support who went into obscure locations to try to remove it, but the sound has not improved - tinny etc. - I can't use skype or listen to music and barely can understand youtube videos.  I was advised that reinstalling the operating system is the next thing to try.

     

    I think I would prefer not to wipe the entire thing for now - I might do that at another time.  For now I'd like to do the simple-reinstall to try repair the sound.  What the heck should I do?  Do the command-r, click Recovery reinstall, then Mountain Lion should be available to click and download?  Is that all?

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    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 12:18 PM in response to cindyjj
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    Jan 2, 2016 12:18 PM in response to cindyjj

    If you are NOT erasing, download and install "live" in Mac OS X, NOT recovery.

     

    If you have an 8GB or larger USB thumb drive, you could make an Installer thumb drive using DiskMakerX before you start the Install.

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 12:45 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 12:45 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Where and how do I download "live" in Mac OS X?  Is this the option that was next to the recovery reinstall button?  I thought it just said "Mac HD" but I don't remember exactly.  There were two options sitting there from both the comm-r prompt and the opt-comm-r:  recovery reinstall and Mac HD.

     

    If "live" is the same as the Mac HD option, that is the one I tried so many times.  I didn't actually try the recovery reinstall button.

     

    Also, to be clear, if I run into connection issues, are you saying that using DiskMakerX on usb drive will bypass this issue?

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    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 12:58 PM in response to cindyjj
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    Jan 2, 2016 12:58 PM in response to cindyjj

    If your mac is (other than sound) working correctly, you should be able to open the Mac App Store, bring up your "Purchases" page, possibly log in with the AppleID you used for the purchase of 10.8, and click the download button. If that is not working, then there are some issues that need to be addressed to get to that point.

     

    Recovery is not needed if you have a mostly-functioning Mac OS X in place.

     

    When you click the download button, it should send you about a 6 GB download, which will be stored in the /Applications folder. When complete, it will ask you to restart your mac to Install.

     

    If you quit that and run DiskMakerX at that point, it will package up that download and write it out to a 8GB or larger thumb drive, overwriting the previous contents to make a bootable, stand-alone Installer thumb drive (including Utilities).

     

    Or you answer the "restart now?" question in the affirmative, and it will mount the Disk Image you downloaded and boot to it, and allow you to re-install Mac OS X (but will NOT allow you to erase the drive where the download is stored).

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 1:04 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 1:04 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    So then merely finding ML in my purchases and downloading and installing it without doing anything else at all to my computer (not even using command r) will reinstall ML?

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    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 1:14 PM in response to cindyjj
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    Jan 2, 2016 1:14 PM in response to cindyjj

    That is correct.

     

    And if you choose, you can interrupt and take a half hour to make a stand-alone Installer on a thumb drive (8GB or larger).

     

    You would need to interrupt to do this, because the downloaded Installer is eliminated as the Installation nears completion.

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 2:02 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 2:02 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    So I would need to have the installer on the USB drive and in the USB port before I interrupt.  When and how do I interrupt?  After the download and before the installation begins?  How do I initiate the making of the stand-alone installer?  I expect these questions will arise as I do this, so I should ask now.

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    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 2:55 PM in response to cindyjj
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    Jan 2, 2016 2:55 PM in response to cindyjj

    1. Have a 8GB or larger USB stick handy

    2. Download DiskMakerX from here:

    http://diskmakerx.com/

     

    3. Start the download of the version of Mac OS X you want. Its temporary file will be placed in the /Applications folder

    4. go about your business. after more than 1/2 hour but less than 3 hours, a notice will pop up asking if you want to restart now.

    5. say not now.

    6. launch DiskMaker X

    7. it will say Mountain Lion? Yosemite ? ElCapitan? you choose.

    8. it will look in the /Applications folder, find the matching download, and make the USB stick. Takes a while, USB sticks are slow.

    9. When DiskMakerX is done making the USB stick you can either:

       a) double-click on the download to re-install (faster) -OR-

       b) boot from the USB stick to re-install

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 5:25 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 5:25 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Thanks for that, much appreciated.

     

    In the event that I decide to do a full erase and reinstall, do I simply go to the Disk Utility and click erase hard drive?  Then after it is finished install from the USB?  After the erase, how will DiskMaker launch?

     

    It's funny, after all these questions, I think I know what the problem was with connecting to reinstall ML:  I have been using my more recent gmail username with password when signing in with my Apple ID.  When I went to the App Store earlier today to find ML, it wouldn't take my password and I didn't know why, so I reset it.  Meanwhile the app store when resetting the password I noticed that the appstore had my older email address in the user name with a similar but different password.  So I suspect that when Apple ID prompted for my password when I was trying to get ML from command-r that it was linked to my older email address.  I thought when I changed my applie ID email to the recent one that the older one no longer existed.  So basically, I may not need DiskMaker, but it might be wise to make anyway incase I do the full install.

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    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 2, 2016 7:03 PM in response to cindyjj
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    Jan 2, 2016 7:03 PM in response to cindyjj

    In the event that I decide to do a full erase and reinstall, do I simply go to the Disk Utility and click erase hard drive?  Then after it is finished install from the USB?  After the erase, how will DiskMaker launch?

     

    Close, but not quite.

     

    You cannot use the Disk Utility IN the running system to erase the drive that belongs to the running system.

     

    But if you have a good Diskmaker-X thumb drive:

    • It is bootable. use system preferences > Startup Disk ... or hold the Option key while you Restart, wait for it to draw all the drives, choose the Installer drive, and proceed.

    • the USB stick has disk utility in it, provided you just answer "what language" and do not start the Install yet.

     

    While booted from the DiskMaker Installer, you can erase the Macintosh HD drive, and the re-Install Mac OS X. Your files and your third-party Applications can be brought back from your Backup.

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 7:32 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 7:32 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    That's weird - I thought Disk utility gave the option to erase the entire drive?  Now I'm really confused.  But do understand using the DiskMaker.

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    cindyjj cindyjj Jan 2, 2016 7:44 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 2, 2016 7:44 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    If I do a full erase, will it not be like a blank computer with the original operation system, Lion, on it?  When I had a PC a few years ago I did a few complete reinstalls and it always just started up as if taking it out of the box.

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