Explain copy and paste confusion

I don't understand the command and paste operation with the Command+C and Command+V shortcut keys and Command+X does not work at all. Maybe it isn't supposed to??

When I am on the desktop I can click on a file and then press Command+C and it copies the file to the clipboard. Fine.

Then I want to put it in another folder on the desktop, so I click on that folder ONCE. I then press Command+V.

The file from the clipboard now is copied to the desktop, not into the folder I clicked on and thought was selected.

To get the file to go into the folder on the desktop that I clicked on ONCE, I have to click on it TWICE instead and actually open it before doing the Command+V.

I do not understand this operation. I thought clicking on it once, selected it and that is where my file should have been copied to. Can you explain?


Also, does the Command+X not work on the Mac. Previously on a PC, I would select a file, do a Cntl+X, go to a destination folder and do a Cntl+V and the file was moved. I didn't have to go back and delete it like a copy and paste and delete. Does this not work on a Mac?

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jan 1, 2016 7:50 AM

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Jan 4, 2016 7:15 AM in response to Csound1

Okay let me get this straight. If I want to paste a folder from the Desktop, I only have to single click on it and go to the paste routine. So, the folder is selected by clicking on it ONCE.


Then to paste into another folder, I cannot simply select the folder on the Desktop and paste. I must actually OPEN the folder and then PASTE.


Although you are correct, I do not think that is consistent. In the first case (copying the folder), I have selected the folder and it is highlighted, by clicking on it ONCE and can copy or move it. In the second case (pasting into a folder), selecting the folder I want it to go into by clicking on it ONCE and highlighting it is not sufficient as it was in the copy. I must actually OPEN it and then paste. (Or else as it seems to me, it is not actually selected as it appears on the screen, but the Desktop itself is selected because that is where the folder goes when I paste it.)


Am I nuts or am I missing something? What is really confusing me is that I think I have the folder selected on the Desktop and that is where I think the action should occur - in the selected folder, not the Desktop. But it pastes to the Desktop, not the selected folder.

Jan 4, 2016 7:37 AM in response to Dennis432

Then to paste into another folder, I cannot simply select the folder on the Desktop and paste. I must actually OPEN the folder and then PASTE.

Correct. I've tested that here and that is the behavior in OS X. You must open the folder you want to paste items into and click anywhere inside that folder before pressing Command+Option+V.

Although you are correct, I do not think that is consistent.

Depends on who you're talking to. Windows may work that way, but this isn't Windows. Each OS has their own methods of doing the same thing, and this is the method Apple's engineers went with. You can submit feedback to Apple and ask for improvements and/or changes to OS X's behavior. They'll read it, but don't expect or assume things will change.

What is really confusing me is that I think I have the folder selected on the Desktop and that is where I think the action should occur - in the selected folder, not the Desktop. But it pastes to the Desktop, not the selected folder.

I agree. With the target folder highlighted, I can't see a reason why I have to open it first. But it is what it is for the time being. I can drag and drop the source folder onto that closed target folder to copy or move an item, but can't use keyboard commands to do the same thing.


I very, very rarely copy or move anything with keyboard commands. I just don't see where it saves any time, or is "easier". You already have your hand on the mouse and you're clicking the item(s) to copy/move, so why even take your hand off the mouse? Just drag it to the destination and hold down the appropriate modifier key with your left hand to make it a copy or move.

Jan 4, 2016 7:36 AM in response to macjack

You are confusing me. If I want to simply MOVE the file by drag and drop, I can just drag it, can't I? I don't have to press any (you said COMMAND) modifier key. Only if I want to do a COPY would I have to use (you said OPTION) a modifier key.


Aren't you confusing shortcut key procedure with drag and drop?


Shortcut keys:

COPY CMD+C, CMD+V

MOVE CMD+C, CMD+OPTION+V (the OPTION key causes the delete from the original location)


Drag and drop:

COPY Drag while pressing OPTION key

MOVE Drag without pressing any keys

drag and drop

And isn't this in itself confusing? It I use shortcut keys, I use OPTION for a move and if I use drag and drop, I use OPTION for a copy?


Or have I gotten this mixed up? This time Windows was much better with the Ctrl+X.


Dennis

Jan 4, 2016 7:53 AM in response to Dennis432

If I want to simply MOVE the file by drag and drop, I can just drag it, can't I? I don't have to press any (you said COMMAND) modifier key. Only if I want to do a COPY would I have to use (you said OPTION) a modifier key.

It all depends on where you're copying or moving a file to. In this respect, Windows is exactly the same when using the mouse. If the items are on the same partition, they will always move without holding any keys. If they're going to a different partition, it will always be a copy without holding any keys.


You use the modifier keys when you want to force the opposite behavior.


If I want items on the same partition to copy rather than move (the default), then I would hold down the Option key. A green + sign will appear as you drag to show it will be a copy.


If I want the items to move to a different partition rather than copy (the default), I would hold down the Command key. The green + sign will then disappear as the default copy action will then become a move.


Again, what Windows does is irrelevant. This is OS X. You will only succeed in driving yourself nuts trying to force the Mac OS to do something it isn't coded to do. And no, what you're used to doing doesn't automatically make Windows better. It's just what you're used to. A long time Mac user could make the same argument that Windows is doing it wrong.

Jan 7, 2016 3:03 PM in response to macjack

Thank you for the discussion. I will look over the things mentioned here and get it straightened out as to whether I am in an application like Word, or using the Finder, and whether I am going to a different partition and sort out the commands that we discussed. I guess it is not that difficult when you are aware of the few items that might make a difference. I wasn't paying enough attention to those things and often I would just hit the keys and not check to see the results and sometimes things were not what I was expecting. I think just being more aware up front where I am starting from and intending to go will make it quite easy. It really can't be much simpler than the keys one has to use or drag and drop. I never got used to the drag and drop with the PC because I was using the PC way before drag and drop and it wasn't available. Now I'm pretty much of the time on the Mac so I should switch because that seems to be the way of the Mac. Thanks for taking all the time with the comments and I'll take it from here.

Dennis

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