Hi there Apple,
i would like to ask/say something rather important about the emojis!
my favourite food is pies, and as I look through the food section of the emojis, I find out there is NO pie emoji
i think you should make one as soon as you start making the new update.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE
I am becoming aware of the complicated nature of this special FONT - key combos translate to UniCode numeric string = more than simple, yet not rocket science
it was my precise point that Apple Color Emoji do not display on non-Apple devices - nor would ANY FONT not universally installed or just-in-time via "jquery" on a webpage
diversity has its drawbacks
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It is my understanding that the tech designer - Apple for instance - provides key combos
Tom Gewecke wrote:
ChitlinsCC wrote:
It is my understanding that the tech designer - Apple for instance - provides key combos
- " Ç " is an Apple key combo for which there requires a "series of alt keystrokes" to accomplish on a PC
- The Apple Logo character - is a two modifier key + K on an Apple keyboard in ANY font and cannot be achieved in modern WinDoze version even with New Baskerville loaded
What Apple provides is OS software which maps Unicode numbers to key combos. Users can access various different maps via system preferences/keyboard/input sources.
For Ç, Unicode number C7, the US input source maps the key combo alt + C, while the Spanish ISO input source maps a single key (printed | on a US hardware keyboard). On a Windows machine one would normally use the US International input source, which maps it to ' followed by C.
For the Apple logo, Unicode number F8FF, the US input source maps the key combo alt + K (alt shift k). Because this glyph is copyrighted by Apple, only Apple fonts have it. If you install an Apple font on a Windows machine, you should be able to see and type it. Windows input source maps don't include any simple key combo for F8FF, but you should still be able to type it in some apps like WordPad by typing F8FF followed by Alt +x.
Thanks for speeling it out
Ç is alt + 128 on the numeric keypad > then release in WinDoze - so instead of three keystrokes while holding the modifier "alt" (PLUS the SHIFT key, BTW) on the Mac, it takes 15 actions in WinDoze
My PB Pismo's display is shattered, so I am getting reacquainted with Windoze on a loaner Dell/Win8 lately
I thought I had thoroughly investigated the Apple Logo character (one of my favorites) - but it seems stupid to try if *I* can see it and everyone else can't
It does NOT display on my Win8 Dell - see this grab from my cookie cutter "help us help you" post (where the Logo character is supposed to be is obvious by its absence)
We Like Pies wrote:
Hi there Apple,
i would like to ask/say something rather important about the emojis!
my favourite food is pies, and as I look through the food section of the emojis, I find out there is NO pie emoji
i think you should make one as soon as you start making the new update.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE
Really? No, it isn't.
Not until now... interesting reading. Good luck on using Apple Color Emojis on non-Apple devices (and vice versa) - it's a FONT - AppleColorEmoji.ttf since Lion
clearly from Font Book
IF I were to design a FontFace of ANY kind, I would need to comply with the UniCode standards fro assigning each "vector" image to a key combination = simple as that
My understanding...
At one time (and I actually did this when I worked at one joint), one needed to mickey around using the "Baskerville Old Face" font that had the logo character in it. My research on the subject a month or so ago did not indicate any solution for the lack of the font's inclusion in Win8 (and beyond?)
My solution at this point would simply be to use an image and paste it inline - - then resize -
to taste = a pain in the ***
There should be a whole chart of pies. On the chart at the very least would be Key Lime, Cherry, Peach, Pumkin and ala mode versions of said pies. Looking forward there should be a way for future users to add their favorites.
Be sure to use the feedback link to let Apple know of the much needed pie chart.
ChitlinsCC wrote:
It is my understanding that the tech designer - Apple for instance - provides key combos
- " Ç " is an Apple key combo for which there requires a "series of alt keystrokes" to accomplish on a PC
- The Apple Logo character - is a two modifier key + K on an Apple keyboard in ANY font and cannot be achieved in modern WinDoze version even with New Baskerville loaded
What Apple provides is OS software which maps Unicode numbers to key combos. Users can access various different maps via system preferences/keyboard/input sources.
For Ç, Unicode number C7, the US input source maps the key combo alt + C, while the Spanish ISO input source maps a single key (printed | on a US hardware keyboard). On a Windows machine one would normally use the US International input source, which maps it to ' followed by C.
For the Apple logo, Unicode number F8FF, the US input source maps the key combo alt + K (alt shift k). Because this glyph is copyrighted by Apple, only Apple fonts have it. If you install an Apple font on a Windows machine, you should be able to see and type it. Windows input source maps don't include any simple key combo for F8FF, but you should still be able to type it in some apps like WordPad by typing F8FF followed by Alt +x.
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What IS "mincemeat" anyway?
Apple does not control the emoji. They are handled by a consortium, and Apple just provides access to them on the phone. If you want to see new emoji, then take the time to search up that Unicode consortium and tell them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Color_Emoji
excerpts:
Apple Color Emoji is a color typeface used by iOS and OS X to display emoji, a series of ideograms originally created by Shigetaka Kurita for use in Japanese mobile phones.
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The designers of the Apple Color Emoji typeface have not been publicly credited, following Apple's standard practice of not crediting work to individual developers, and former Apple employees have offered varying comments on who drew what, one calling it a 'perennial' project for interns. A few were designed, at least in early drafts, by Willem Van Lancker.
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[emphasis is mine]
FYI, UniCode is the "standard for encoding" vector images for Fonts - not the "high court" of approval - all Fonts use UniCode > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode
>>>I would need to comply with the UniCode standards fro assigning each "vector" image to a key combination = simple as that
UNicode doesn't say anything about key combinations. It assigns characters to numbers. How a particular device creates the numbers via keys or palettes or other means is up to the people who manufacture it.
NOn-apple devices have their own color fonts with their own designs to display emoji. There are also non-proprietary black/white fonts for emoji that all devices can use.
bobseufert wrote:
Looking forward there should be a way for future users to add their favorites.
For users to add emoji's on their own wouldn't make a lot of sense. Unless they are adopted by Unicode, via the process that body has set up, nobody else will ever see them.
ChitlinsCC wrote:
Ç is alt + 128 on the numeric keypad > then release in WinDoze - so instead of three keystrokes while holding the modifier "alt" (PLUS the SHIFT key, BTW) on the Mac, it takes 15 actions in WinDoze
the Apple Logo character ...does NOT display on my Win8 Dell
Windows users who need to type Ç regularly will be using the US International layout where it is made just as easily as on a Mac.
Does your Dell have an Apple font installed? That's the only way the logo could be displayed, since Windows fonts do not include this copyrighted character.
If I had a Windows machine to test this on, I would try sending a copy of an Apple ttf font like AppleGothic to the PC and installing it. Hopefully it would be recognized and the Apple logo would display when it was contained in a text, and it could be typed into WordPad via its Unicode hex number.
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As a fan of cakes I don't think your post is so important.
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