JackFarmer20

Q: iBook G3 charges, will not power on

Greetings from the UK!

 

My 600MHz 2002 iBook G3 Snow (16 VRAM model) has worked fantastically, serving as part of my vintage Mac collection, until a few weeks ago.

 

My iBook will not boot at all, despite resetting the PMU and PRAM using the normal procedure for these laptops. The charger used is verified to be working, and the two batteries I have used to test the machine also work correctly. When the PMU or PRAM have been reset, the machine does nothing at all, but the colour of the charging indicator briefly changes. The computer does charge, as the green/orange ring on the charger shows and the battery lights up also. When the power button is pressed, nothing happens at all - no LCD backlight, no fans, no LED light, no charger light change.

 

As I say, the machine worked flawlessly until very recently, so I hope this is no serious issue. It would break my heart to throw one of these beautiful machines away!

 

Thank you in advance for your assistance,

 

Jack

iBook, Mac OS X (10.4.11), See above

Posted on Jan 4, 2016 12:25 PM

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  • by K Shaffer,Solvedanswer

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Jan 9, 2016 10:15 AM in response to JackFarmer20
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    Jan 9, 2016 10:15 AM in response to JackFarmer20

    There are some hints on what lays inside, waiting for you to peek inside, with help

    of a few repair guides with fair image detail and steps to take such a device apart.

     

    If you have a 12-inch iBook G3 (white) or 14-inch similar model, there are two guides:

     

    • iBook G3 12-inch repair guide (white)

    https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook_G3_12%22

     

    • iBook G3 14-inch repair guide (white)

    https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook_G3_14%22

     

    Certain circuits may fail to due age and heat expansion/contraction due to natural

    warming and cooling during periods of use and non-use; there are solder joints in

    these which may be affected by time. Some issues were known to exist as time

    went on, because in part, the chemical composition or type of solder was changed.

    If this is a contributing cause, further investigation may be required and symptoms

    of this may be difficult to narrow down. Unless you can get it working again, to have

    it fail similarly. A solder joint issue had been discovered by Corey Allen (or sim name)

    and that effect was given his name. He devised a way to put shims inside the body

    of the iBook (white) to apply pressure on the CPU and push the microscopically tiny

    broken solder joints together without re-soldering. There are companies who can do

    the micro-soldering or re-ball of tiny affected logic board failures, sometimes these

    are sporadic due to heating and cooling; other times there is a complete failure and

    the board may be repaired in a well-qualified shop, instead locating a replacement.

     

    {I no longer see the old article of how this DIY repair by compression online

    and it does not appear in a search of the name mentioned above.}

     

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=iBook+G3+logic+board+repair+&t=ffsb

     

    http://www.applerepair.co.uk/ibook-logic-board-repair.htm  (G4 iBook noted)

     

    So trouble shooting is the primary difficulty without technical skills or understanding

    of how the device works, and a schematic of the electrical pathways to test them.

     

    There may be a copy of the original apple Service manual online in PDF worth a look

    to see if you can download one; be careful since posers may have uploaded malware.

     

    Not sure who will see and reply to your thread (there should only be one, going ahead)

    however the device should not be thrown away yet. I have a few older Macs that are

    in need of microscopic repair out of my league, sitting nearby. Much older ones had

    better access to the internal parts, such as desktop PowerMacs, etc. Compact design

    is part of the problem, intricate integrated electronics; increased difficulty for end user.

     

    Perhaps some of those who visit and reply here who have done troubleshooting will

    see your thread and suggest methods to further test the unit; because these are so

    much older, only a few qualified trained specialist authorized service providers will

    touch them. And their time cost the same if you have a new model or an antique.

     

    The level of their ability to know what needs repair & troubleshooting it, varies. In

    the US a company such as wegenermedia.com could restore the unit, especially if

    a complete portable computer were sent to them for initial diagnostic testing.

    When a computer is otherwise a lot like new in appearance, it may be worth fixing.

     

    Anyway, it's late here in my time zone and so I should've been sleeping instead...

    Good luck & happy computing!