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IP assignment takes 5 minutes when moving from an AP to another one

Hi everybody 🙂


First of all let me describe my network set up:

- DSL MODEM/ROUTER (at the moment it is switched off since ISP has not yet provide the cable 😟 )

- APPLE TIME CAPSULE (2nd generation) > wireless off

> 10.0.0.1 IP address as gateway of home network

> dhcp (10.0.0.2 - 10.0.0.200 range) and nat operating modality

- D-LINK DGS-1010-24P switch (hard wired to Apple TC)

- 3 ASUS RP-AC56 (hard wired to the switch) operating as access point (AP) located in 3 different areas of the home.


Symptoms:

When I moved from an area served by one AP, the connection falls down, client wireless card connects almost immediately to another AP (that with the strongest signal).

However the client is only connected to the AP, not to the network.. In fact typing the address of the AP into a browser address leads to AP configuration page, while IP remains auto assigned (something like 169.x.x.x).

At this point I have to wait almost exactly 5 minutes (or some second more).. and, after this time, the client is connected again to the main network with a correct IP (e.g. 10.0.0.9).


Facts:

The 3 APs create a wifi network with the same SSID, same security password and modality, 3 different channels.

They have a static IP and are not a dhcp server (the only dhcp server is the AppleTC).

I've excluded that the problem come from the switch since I've made a test connecting 2 ap directly to the Apple TC and the problem was still the same.


Question(s):

- What happens during those 5 minutes?

- Why exactly 5 minutes?

- The problem is due to the router, to the ap(s) or to the client?


Any help will be appreciated!

Time Capsule (2nd generation)-OTHER, Other OS

Posted on Jan 11, 2016 3:35 AM

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Jan 11, 2016 4:30 AM in response to ilmuska

I understand the setup and I understand the problem. I cannot answer your questions.. but I can suggest something to help test what is going on.


What IP are the three Asus AP's.. do they all exist in the same network range?


If you plug in by ethernet.. firstly to the switch from say a laptop.. does it pickup the IP almost immediately??


What about if you plug by ethernet (wireless off) into ethernet ports on the Asus setup up as AP??


That might help prove where the issue is..

Jan 11, 2016 4:45 AM in response to LaPastenague

Hi LaPastenague, thank you very much for suggestions..


The three APs belong to same subnet (their IP are 10.0.0.3, 10.0.0.4, 10.0.0.5).


Since I'm at work I can do some test this evening.. I'll report all results 😉


In addition I'm thinking that it will be necessary to revive my old netbook since is the only device I have with ethernet port.. 😢

Jan 11, 2016 1:55 PM in response to ilmuska

Well ipads and iphones sure don't have ethernet ports.. so you need something ..


A macbook without ethernet is like a bird with one wing.. buy the thunderbolt to ethernet adapter.. it is the best priced thunderbolt gadget available.. perhaps the only one you ever buy but it is actually NECESSARY.


Fixing up wireless by wireless is akin to the cartoons where the character saws off the branch they are sitting on.


With the Asus AP I presume you have ethernet plugged into their WAN ports.. try swapping it to LAN.


No luck I will give you another setup.. but post when you have a chance. In am in Australia..


Hmmm.. a sudden though.. you know this all might solve itself once you have internet.


- What happens during those 5 minutes?

- Why exactly 5 minutes?

DNS not available in the TC could cause strange stuff to happen.. often a DNS resolve is necessary for lots of things to happen now.


Put the TC in static IP mode.. And use DHCP not DHCP and NAT.


Re: airport time capsule keeps disconnecting


The setup is here.. only difference is you will set the main DNS on the Internet tab to itself.


I would also prefer to see you stick to standard Apple IP address scheme .. it is minor.. and don't worry for now.. but using 10.0.0.x when the TC is setup for 10.0.1.x can cause interesting issues.

Jan 11, 2016 3:54 PM in response to LaPastenague

Hi again 🙂


I tried to plug a laptop directly and it took the ip immediately.


Asus ap has only one Ethernet port. Plugging directly into it lead to a strange behaviour: laptop takes an iP address (same as before) but the Apple TC becomes impossible to reach.


your speech about the connection to Internet is really interesting... Tomorrow I'll try with static router ip and only dhcp (no nat)


just a question: Why do you affirm that tc is setup with 10.0.1.x? default dhcp configuration shows a 10.0.0.x ip family..


UPdates will follow 😊

Jan 11, 2016 5:10 PM in response to ilmuska

Asus ap has only one Ethernet port.

Teach me to look up the model number.


Plugging directly into it lead to a strange behaviour: laptop takes an iP address (same as before) but the Apple TC becomes impossible to reach.

Now you need to explain.. you plugged the ethernet lead that used to go to the Asus into the laptop.. it gets an address but no access to the TC.. is that what you are doing??


Why do you affirm that tc is setup with 10.0.1.x? default dhcp configuration shows a 10.0.0.x ip family..

Default on the TC.. press the reset and do a full factory reset it will always come back 10.0.1.1 as the home address.. but it is class C network.. 255.255.255.0 subnet mask..


If you setup the Asus 10.0.0.3, 4 and 5.. and still have the TC on home IP you are not actually going to have the IP registered.. it might work.. because you are mixing a class A address with Class C.. but the better way to do things is have everything on the default.. and even pass the Asus IP by dhcp reservation even if you have it set statically.. as that helps keep the ARP/route table up to date.

Jan 12, 2016 7:01 AM in response to LaPastenague

Teach me to look up the model number.

ASUS RP-AC56

Plugging directly into it lead to a strange behaviour: laptop takes an iP address (same as before) but the Apple TC becomes impossible to reach.

Now you need to explain.. you plugged the ethernet lead that used to go to the Asus into the laptop.. it gets an address but no access to the TC.. is that what you are doing??

No.. I took the lead that used to go into the wall (i.e. to the the switch) and plugged it into laptop. This took an ip (the same as before) but was not able to see TC


If you setup the Asus 10.0.0.3, 4 and 5.. and still have the TC on home IP you are not actually going to have the IP registered.. it might work.. because you are mixing a class A address with Class C.. but the better way to do things is have everything on the default.. and even pass the Asus IP by dhcp reservation even if you have it set statically.. as that helps keep the ARP/route table up to date.

If putting the TC static and only dhcp will not work I'll try to do this..

Jan 14, 2016 2:15 PM in response to LaPastenague

Hi.. This evening I tried the last chance: I substitute the TC with another router/dhcp server (that one given by the ISP).

The problem didn't go away..

The sadness was taking me when I found an eye opening web page on a asus forum.. (I don't know if I can link it here). On that page many many people were talking about the fact that the asus product did not work correctly in AP mode.. and the proof was that a customer had a reply from asus itself where they apologize for the problem and proposed a substitution.

It seems that the issue is due to the asus rp-ac56 firmware.. it is a sort of a "youthful sin" of this relatively new product.


My final solution is to believe in Amazon refund policy 😊

Jan 14, 2016 5:27 PM in response to ilmuska

My final solution is to believe in Amazon refund policy

I like asus products.. that have third party firmware available..


I have never been especially impressed by Asus firmware..


Sometimes it is better to go with a product that is just better known in the market..


eg Netgear R7000 or Asus RT-AC68U.. that have been on the market for a few years.. have excellent firmware projects and can be set to WAP mode. You get better value for money because they are products that have a wider following than would be possible with the crummy firmware that is written by the OEM.

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