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Q: Adding LaserWriter 4/600 PS

Hi there, folks

 

I have an Apple LaserWriter 4/600 PS that I do NOT know how to configure/add printer.

I have a LocalTalk to Ethernet Bridge (Dayna Mini EtherPrint) and a Linksys 5-Port Workgroup Hub.

I previously had no printer(s) and/or Ethernet device(s)/service(s). Using Wi-Fi for Internet Access.

Do I need the Ethernet hub or can I just connect with the LocalTalk to Ethernet Bridge?

 

I have previously used the Apple LaserWriter 4/600 PS on a Windoze PC running OS XP and a Power Macintosh 8600.

 

My particulars: MacMini (4,1), OS X (10.6.8).

 

Any insight/input/info would be greatly appreciated

 

Thank You for your time, James

Apple LaserWriter 4/600 PS, Mac OS X (10.6.8), LocalTalk to Ethernet Bridge

Posted on Jan 20, 2016 3:44 PM

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  • by H AND J,

    H AND J H AND J Jan 28, 2016 3:34 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 28, 2016 3:34 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Grant,

     

    Yeah, BUT I would be in the same Banana Boat, Grant!

    So, move the iBook SE next to the router and plug-in and then run a 50 foot cable to the Ethernet hub?

    Nope/NOT/Never/etc., That's Krazy, Grant!

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 28, 2016 3:45 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 28, 2016 3:45 PM in response to H AND J

    Then move it next to the Hub.

     

    You can cascade Hubs/Switches, and most Routers have extra Ethernet ports, and Ethernet cables can be the length of a football field, as can AppleTalk using phone wire.

     

    Surely you can move something around to make this easier, swap some other device around to free an Ethernet cable, or move your Router.

  • by H AND J,

    H AND J H AND J Jan 28, 2016 3:58 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 28, 2016 3:58 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Grant,

     

    Thx, but NO thx. It would be easier to use powerline device(s) to connect the iBook SE to the router.

    The only thing I would like now, is to be enable iDevice(s) wireless printing ("AirPrint").

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 28, 2016 6:45 PM in response to H AND J
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  • by H AND J,

    H AND J H AND J Jan 29, 2016 1:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 29, 2016 1:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Thx, Grant!

     

    I will give it a try & report my results.

     

    Again, many thx, Grant (James)

  • by H AND J,

    H AND J H AND J Jan 30, 2016 1:59 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 30, 2016 1:59 PM in response to H AND J

    Hi there, Jan

     

    I was able to boot the iBook SE from a start-up disc (Mac OS 9.1) and run the Printer Utility from the disc.

    I found out that the LW 4/600 PS had only around 240 pages printed.

     

    Here are some photos for you: The ZIF Carrier & the ZIF CPU.

     

    ZIFCarrier.jpg

    ZIFCPU.jpg

     

    As you can see, Jan, still wrapped in plastic!

     

    Thx, Jan (James)

  • by Jan Hedlund,

    Jan Hedlund Jan Hedlund Jan 30, 2016 2:26 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 30, 2016 2:26 PM in response to H AND J

    James,

     

    Very good!

     

    I noticed earlier that you still had a problem connecting with WPA(2) security. Did you try the range extender with the Ethernet port, or have you tested another solution?

  • by H AND J,

    H AND J H AND J Jan 30, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Jan Hedlund
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    Jan 30, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Jan Hedlund

    Jan,

     

    You may have not seen my replies to Grant.

    I was wondering if I updated the iBook from 10.4.6 to 10.4.11, would that help with the AirPort security protocol?

    Or is it just a plain hardware/firmware issue?

    I am now leaning towards to powerline adapters, so there would be less/no interference with the existing Wi-Fi.

     

    Thx, Jan (James)

  • by Jan Hedlund,

    Jan Hedlund Jan Hedlund Jan 30, 2016 3:22 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 30, 2016 3:22 PM in response to H AND J

    These were the requirements for WPA mentioned in an old support article:

    an AirPort or AirPort Extreme card,

    Mac OS X 10.3 or later,

    AirPort software version 3.3 or later for the AirPort Card,

    AirPort software version 3.2 or later for the AirPort Extreme Card.

     

    However, as indicated earlier, it is not quite clear to me whether the 802.11b (AirPort) card in fact can be made to work with WPA, despite the text. I do not know to what extent an update from 10.4.6 to 10.4.11 would affect things. It could well be a hardware/firmware issue.

     

    Using powerline adapters appears to be a solution worth testing.

  • by Jan Hedlund,

    Jan Hedlund Jan Hedlund Jan 30, 2016 4:00 PM in response to Jan Hedlund
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    Jan 30, 2016 4:00 PM in response to Jan Hedlund

    Addendum

     

    Merely as examples, the following links could perhaps be of interest to you. It looks as if WPA, but not WPA2, would be possible. Router settings appear to be important, too. Also, see the comment by Tesserax in the third discussion about variants of the original AirPort card.

    Original Airport w/WPA

    Old Airport card (b protocol) will not connect to Airport Express

    Can't access my network if I have WPA/WPA2 enabled

  • by H AND J,

    H AND J H AND J Jan 31, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Jan Hedlund
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    Jan 31, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Jan Hedlund

    Hi there, Jan

     

    Thx for the additional information/links/etc.

    Updates have been applied to iBook SE, now running Mac OS X 10.4.11, with TOO many Java updates!

    The AirPort software you mentioned (AirPort software version 3.3 or later for the AirPort Card), Jan, is for a base station, yes?

    I will also try to see if I can "add" another WPA security protocol to my router?

     

    Jan, I finally did research the device(s) you suggested I look into.

    I like this item: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-12_TL-WA890EA.html#overview

    Powerline adapter(s) can be tricky if your NOT on the same circuit with the two (2) adapter(s).

     

    Thx, Jan (James)

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 31, 2016 4:28 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 31, 2016 4:28 PM in response to H AND J

    LPR/LPD is a special protocol that must be supported by the Printer itself. The LaserWriter 4/600 does not support it.

     

    On the Host, you should be set up as a LaserWriter 4/600, with the driver supplied by Apple. then that Printer should be Shared.

     

    On the client, you can set up as either Generic postscript or LaserWriter 4/600. The default should give you an Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) connection to the Shared Printer_name @ Hostname. Do not attempt a direct connection to the name of the Printer, even if it shows up, as that will not work.

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    H AND J H AND J Jan 31, 2016 5:08 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Jan 31, 2016 5:08 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Thx, Grant

     

    Yeah, I have set-up the printer on the host with the PPD supplied by Apple.

    On the client, the printer is set-up as LW 4/600 PS (Apple LaseWriter 4/600 PS v2014.107/LaserWriter 4-600 PS @ iBook SE FW G3 466/URL: dnssd://LaserWriter%204%2F600%20PS%20%40%20iBook%20SE%20FW%20G3%20466._ipp._tcp .local.).

    I see the IPP in the URL.

    Maybe I should delete the printer on the client and add the shared printer again, but what setting/selection must I NOT select?

    So, when setting-up the printer on the client via SP/Print & Fax, NO LPR/LPD, but do NOT browse for the host printer on the client?

     

    Thx, Grant (James)

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Jan 31, 2016 5:30 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 31, 2016 5:30 PM in response to H AND J

    I am not sure where all that other 'stuff' comes from. My Printer Host for older printers is AppleTalq. My printer host for modern printers is b-aassoc. My Printer browser on a client looks like this:

    Screen Shot 2016-01-31 at 8.20.22 PM.png

     

    .

  • by Jan Hedlund,

    Jan Hedlund Jan Hedlund Jan 31, 2016 5:50 PM in response to H AND J
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    Jan 31, 2016 5:50 PM in response to H AND J

    Hello again,

     

    >The AirPort software you mentioned (AirPort software version 3.3 or later for the AirPort Card), Jan, is for a base station, yes?

     

    The 3.3 software appears to have been relevant to both card and base station (see, for example, http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Apple_Releases_AirPort_Software_Version_3 .3). I do not know to what extent your Mac OS X 10.4.11 contains all the needed software (the requirements say "AirPort software version 3.3 or later").

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