salavatkh wrote:
" In regards to 'another point of view', there aren't any points of view, because this isn't about OPINIONS."
I read this sentence 5 times, could not understand. May be my comprehension ability is falling over this.
"It is about FACTS."
That is really amazing. We have different FACTS, which never was a case before you brought.
FACTS.
a) Target is official re-seller of Apple products b) No, they are not official distributor of Apple products
a) Sold iPhone is UNLOCKED b) Yes, it is unlocked, but it locks.
a) Products could be purchased in US b) No, products could be purchased in US only if they are used in US.
and so on, and on, and on... Now I see facts are different, depending on something else.
"And it really amazes me that people fail to educate themselves prior to making a large or important purchase. An iPhone is a PHONE. For it to work correctly, you need a WIRELESS CARRIER. So, shouldn't' you make sure that your intended carrier is even capable of using the iPhone? Not all carriers are able to do so. Also, there is not a global standard that all carriers use. It's like buying a DVD player in one region, and then not being able to play DVDs from another region, or not being able to plug it in without an adaptor, and so on and so on."
Good point. Does not the education works when OP buys UNLOCKED iPhone? If not, probably, buying UNLOCKED iPhone should be only used with test equipment, frequency metering, emission testing etc... I think UNLOCKED means what is says in wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock
If you have a different version of wiki I should read, please point me to it. If there is a more precise and modern meaning of words SIM LOCK, UNLOCKED, please let me know the link to vocabularly, since English is not my native language.
"Who at Apple ever told you that the iPhone was intended or designed for INTERNATIONAL use? The answer is: no one. But the OP (and apparently you) made that assumption."
You think Apple should really SAY that? Wikipedia meaning of UNLOCK could be overwritten by Apple specific statement about working international?
"You say the world is different outside of the U.S. I'm well aware of this, I've travelled a lot. But thank you for proving my point. The world IS different outside of the U.S. And you seem to be aware of that."
Very well. I quote you to ask the same question (since you travel a lot):
- "Who at Apple ever told you that the iPhone was intended or designed for INTERNATIONAL use?" Do you just take you iPhone abroad and it simply works outside US, or do you take another phone with you to communicate abroad. If you take you iPhone, why did not you ask Apple for international use of iPhone, like you suggesting it to me?
Yes, you're debating opinions, about what Apple should or should not be responsible for. I'm quoting facts, about what Apple is actually responsible for, and what responsibility lies with the consumer and the carrier.
A point of view is an OPINION. Facts don't have a point of view; they simply are facts.
'The speed limit is 65 mph' - FACT.
'The government should raise the speed limit on this stretch of road to 75 mph because the road is very straight & smooth and cars are safer today then when the speed limit was first set.' - OPINION (even though you include some facts to SUPPORT your OPINION, it is still an OPINON).
I've looked at the Target website. No iPhones are listed in their 'unlocked' category. And all of the iPhones listed have you choose a service provider (AT&T, Verizon or Sprint). So, I'm not seeing where Target officially states that the iPhones they sell are 'unlocked'.
And even for an 'unlocked' iPhone, once you lock it to a carrier, for it to be unlocked from that carrier for use on another carrier, your current carrier needs to authorize the unlock: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201328
Quoting a wikipedia article in this discussion is interesting, since that article actually supports my point. Once your phone is locked to a carrier, that carrier needs to authorize the unlock.
And yes, the Apple article, being specific to iPhones, supersedes the wikipedia article. Wikipedia is editable by anyone in the world. Apple articles are published and edited only by Apple.
I didn't assume anything about the intention of international use. The fact that the OP states he is on the other side of the planet indicates that he made that assumption. I simply asked why he made that assumption.
When I use my iPhone internationally (which is rarely and for short durations), I either use wi-fi calling if I'm going to be someplace with regular & reliable wi-fi, or I contact my carrier to set up a temporary international roaming plan. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201643
In other words, I educated myself before my purchase, including my options for international usage with my preferred carrier. The OP did not.