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Q: In FCP 5 when I colour correct I loose resolutiion

So when I colour correct in FCP5, I loose resolution. Is there any way I can get it back?

 

Also with the same FCP 5. Can I process video from a black magic camera? How is this captured from an external HD? What is the process for bringing it into FCP for editing?

Final Cut Pro 6, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Jan 31, 2016 8:36 AM

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  • by Meg The Dog,

    Meg The Dog Meg The Dog Jan 31, 2016 10:16 AM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 10:16 AM in response to moviemaker peter

    moviemaker peter wrote:

     

    So when I colour correct in FCP5, I loose resolution. Is there any way I can get it back?

    How are you doing the color correction?

    Have you rendered the color correction on the timeline?

    If you have rendered, are your sequence settings set to render at 100% resolution?

    Screen Shot 2016-01-31 at 8.09.34 AM.png

     

    moviemaker peter wrote:

    Can I process video from a black magic camera? How is this captured from an external HD? What is the process for bringing it into FCP for editing?

    The method you want to use depends, I believe, on which exact version of FCP5 you have.

    If you go to the Sequence Settings Pane and on the General tab click on the Compressor settings drop down menu, do you see Apple Pro Res listed as a choice?

     

    Basically you want to convert the Black Magic files into a format that is edit friendly to your FCP5 software. Once converted, you import those converted files into your edit.

     

    MtD

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 10:35 AM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 10:35 AM in response to Meg The Dog

    Colour correction was by RGB Balance.

    Rendered on time line.

    Set at 100%.

     

    About the Black Magic media I will try this and get back to you. Thanks so far on this info. (FCP V. 5.1.4)

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 10:50 AM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 10:50 AM in response to moviemaker peter

    @ MtD

     

    I went to Video Processing, choices were:   Always render in RGB    Render in 8 bit YUV    Render all YUV material in High Precision YUV.

     

    Setting is set at Render in 8 Bit YUV.

     

    Does this setting have anything to do with it?

  • by Meg The Dog,

    Meg The Dog Meg The Dog Jan 31, 2016 10:58 AM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 10:58 AM in response to moviemaker peter

    If by "it" you mean losing resolution it depends on what you mean by "losing resolution"

     

    Click on a source clip in the Browser to select it. Once selected, type Command + 9 to see the item properties for the clip. Either report those item properties here or take a screen shot of the item properties and post that screen shot here.

     

    Next, click anywhere in your timeline. Type Command + 0 {zero} to see your sequence settings. Either report those sequence settings here or take a screen shot and post that screen shot here.

     

    It might also be helpful if you could post a screen shot of a frame before/after applying color correction to see the "loss of resolution" you are seeing.

     

    MtD

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 11:16 AM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 11:16 AM in response to Meg The Dog

    I get a grain in the video = losing res.

     

    How do I take a screen shot?

  • by Meg The Dog,

    Meg The Dog Meg The Dog Jan 31, 2016 11:36 AM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 11:36 AM in response to moviemaker peter

    Shift + Command + 4 and then drag the cursor over the area you want to capture.

    When you have the screen shot, compose a reply and use the little camera icon above in the toolbar:

    Screen Shot 2016-01-31 at 9.33.25 AM.png

     

    MtD

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 11:52 AM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 11:52 AM in response to Meg The Dog

    Screen shots

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 11:54 AM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 11:54 AM in response to moviemaker peter

    Screen shots.   So I don't know if the shots went through. Nothing seemed to happen when I clicked insert image.  ???

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 12:08 PM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 12:08 PM in response to Meg The Dog

    and again?Screen shot 2016-01-31 at 1.03.40 PM.pngScreen shot 2016-01-31 at 1.02.39 PM.pngScreen shot 2016-01-31 at 1.04.12 PM.png

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 12:21 PM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 12:21 PM in response to Meg The Dog

    Screen shot 2016-01-31 at 1.20.20 PM.png

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 12:23 PM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 12:23 PM in response to Meg The Dog

    Screen shot 2016-01-31 at 1.22.25 PM.png

  • by Meg The Dog,Solvedanswer

    Meg The Dog Meg The Dog Jan 31, 2016 1:33 PM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 1:33 PM in response to moviemaker peter

    OK, thanks for the screen shots -

     

    1) Your settings all look good.

     

    2) If the darker of the two images you posted is the original, and if the brighter image you posted is  the result of applying color correction, the resultant grain apparent in the corrected image is just the consequence of having to bring the level of the dark picture up to acceptable levels. The original is severely under exposed, and bringing the level up in post is just revealing the sensor noise present in the image that is normally masked by correct exposure.

    There is no solution to this within FCP, if you absolutely need the shot you can consider third party software such as Neat Noise Reduction:

    https://www.neatvideo.com

    (embarrassingly bad web site, terrific product) but, in addition to the expense of buying the plug in, it is very time intensive to render. It can do wonders in certain situations.


    3) Convert your BlackMagic footage to the same settings as your sequence, then import them into FCP for editing. Should work seamlessly.

     

    MtD

  • by moviemaker peter,

    moviemaker peter moviemaker peter Jan 31, 2016 3:15 PM in response to Meg The Dog
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    Jan 31, 2016 3:15 PM in response to Meg The Dog

    Thanks for your help.

  • by Shane Ross,

    Shane Ross Shane Ross Jan 31, 2016 8:47 PM in response to moviemaker peter
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    Jan 31, 2016 8:47 PM in response to moviemaker peter

    Blackmagic cameras shoot RAW (a series of PICTURE files) and ProRes. FCP 5 doesn't work with ProRes...that support came with FCP 6.  You'll need to convert the camera files to DVCPRO HD, which is a shame as you are losing a lot of information doing that (ProRes is full raster 10-bit, and DVCPRO HD is 8 bit thin raster), but if you are using FCP 5, that's what you have to do.

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