Q: Worried about error 53, already using 9.2.

I didn't mean the Apple forums are full of trolls - you just hit a bad spot. I've gotten tons of excellent help here over the years, often better help than I can get under all my Applecare warranties. And Apple is certainly controlling, but I wouldn't even think about switching to Windows or even Android devices - I think Apple's quality is the best available, and usually they're built like tanks. My iMac is 6 years old and my iPhone is a 3GS. So don't give up on the forums just yet. There's always a troll or two around - you just have to ignore them. Responding only encourages them - that's what they want.

william98 wrote:

 

I didn't mean the Apple forums are full of trolls - you just hit a bad spot.

I have noticed that the clueless are the ones that always throw out the troll word.

yes you should, touch id is a motherboard "thing", no connection whatsoever with the display.

bogdangh wrote:

 

yes you should, touch id is a motherboard "thing", no connection whatsoever with the display.

It has a definite connection to the display. The touch ID sensor in the HOME button is paired to the motherboard. If the display or screen is changed, and the HOME button or its cable is replaced as part of that repair, it breaks the pairing. Touch ID will no longer work, and, if iOS is updated or restored, it will permanently brick the phone.

you can chage the display without changing home button

he can upgrade safely, it is not the case here since he said touch id works.

Which is what I said in my first post, and the OP marked as Helpful.

well good for you but why are we discussing it further?

bogdangh wrote:

 

well good for you but why are we discussing it further?

Because you provided incorrect information and Lawrence was politely correcting you?

Applewasteoftime wrote:

 

If my moniker was "Applerules", presumably you would have been super-friendly and even though I'd gone against Apple by repairing the phone elsewhere, you would have given me all the help you could without any rancour or condescension?

Actually, regardless of what your chosen screen name, the fact that you'd had unauthorized service done on your device would have resulted in the same answer:  You've voided your warranty and all service & support options from Apple, and that includes this forum.  Please seek an answer to your query elsewhere.  Thank you and have a good day.

Now, granted Templeton's reply was very direct and lacked any sympathy whatsoever.  If you were expecting sympathy, I'd like to point out a very important fact to you:

This is a technical support forum, not an emotional support forum.

Applewasteoftime wrote:

 

I asked only for the facts from an established knowledge base.

 

Consider this: I paid for this phone. It belongs to me. You think it's cool for a company to disable devices as revenge for users not paying their absurd repair prices?

 

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*chuckle*

Absurd?  Okay, let's break it down:

$949 for an iPhone 6S Plus 128 GB

Option 1: Purchase AppleCare+ for $129, and then only have to pay  $99 deductible, if needed, for up to two incidents of accidental damage during two years.  (Two repairs = $327, or 17.2% of total retail price per repair).  All service & support options from Apple remain in effect for the two-year AppleCare+ timeframe, as well as out-of-warranty options after the two-year period expires.  And all repairs have a 90-day minimum coverage

Option 2: Pay $329 for a single out-of-warranty fee if the entire unit needs repair (34.7% of total retail price per repair).  All service & support options from Apple remain in effect for the one-year warranty timeframe, as well as out-of-warranty options after the one-year period expires

Option 3: Pay $149 for a single out-of-warranty fee if just the display needs repair/replacement (15.7% of total retail price per repair).  All service & support options from Apple remain in effect for the one-year warranty timeframe, as well as out-of-warranty options after the one-year period expires

Option 4: Spend $50-$75 on an unauthorized repair, that probably has no guarantees, is NOT using a legitimate replacement part (because Apple has never provided OEM parts to anyone except themselves or AASPs), and also voids any future support from Apple or an AASP.

I know which one I wouldn’t choose.

Now, please show me the repair service options available from any other smartphone manufacturer, in regards to accidental damage that is not covered under warranty or a form of insurance. 

For example:  what options does Samsung give to their customers that have damaged devices?

i said he can upgrade and that you can change display without changing the home button.

how is that incorrect?

bogdangh wrote:

 

i said he can upgrade and that you can change display without changing the home button.

how is that incorrect?

Please read your own posts before commenting again on what you said.  Here:

Lawrence Finch wrote:

 

bogdangh wrote:

 

yes you should, touch id is a motherboard "thing", no connection whatsoever with the display.

It has a definite connection to the display. The touch ID sensor in the HOME button is paired to the motherboard. If the display or screen is changed, and the HOME button or its cable is replaced as part of that repair, it breaks the pairing. Touch ID will no longer work, and, if iOS is updated or restored, it will permanently brick the phone.

This is the incorrect information you provided.  That is what prompted Lawrence's reply. 

i think you are missing the point, please understand what i'm saying so i don't have to repeat myself 100 times.

the display can be changed without changing the button so there are not related. they are if you wan't them be but it's not mandatory.

are we done now or do i have to draw it for both of you so you can understand?

bogdangh wrote:

 

i think you are missing the point, please understand what i'm saying so i don't have to repeat myself 100 times.

the display can be changed without changing the button so there are not related. they are if you wan't them be but it's not mandatory.

are we done now or do i have to draw it for both of you so you can understand?

They are related, but there's not a direct connection.  It's a pairing.

You're confusing a direct, obvious physical connection for an electronic connection.  That's the most basic way I can think to explain it.

No need to repeat yourself at all.  I fully understand the limitation of your understanding of the 'connections'.

I can change out the video card in my computer without having to change out the display of the monitor, even though there is no direct, physical connection between them.  But they are most definitely related.

so it's the human eye related to a video card and a display, but is that relevant to a situation when a video card breaks? of course not

so in order to help this fellow with his question, we must stay relevant. a characteristic which you failed to adopt.

by the way, my offer with the drawing stands.