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Feb 12, 2016 7:52 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Ask Apple why they don't sell parts to third party repair shops.The only thing thats clear is that they don't. (as is their right)
Yes, they've become the monolith corporation that was derided in the famous 1984 Super Bowl commercial.
Thats your opinion, and you're entitled to it.
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Feb 12, 2016 7:54 AM in response to gail from maineby Philly_Phan,gail from maine wrote:
Again, it is against the TOU for us to speculate as to why Apple does anything. Take it up with Apple.
GB
I'm not speculating. I'm asking specific questions.
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Feb 12, 2016 7:56 AM in response to Philly_Phanby IdrisSeabright,Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
But it is relevant to this discussion.
I was addressing one particular point. Why Apple has chosen this particular path is beyond my knowledge and probably outside the TOU (though not perhaps more than most of this honey pot ).
Do you believe that it's a good thing for a billion dollar corporation to limit the freedom of the consumers?
They are protecting their own intellectual property and profits. I believe that's a necessary evil. Consumers still have choices ("freedom" is way too loaded a word). No one will ever have all available choices. Choices are always limited in some way by someone.
Do you really believe that?
I'm not in the habit of posting things I don't believe.
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Feb 12, 2016 7:59 AM in response to IdrisSeabrightby Philly_Phan,Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
But it is relevant to this discussion.
I was addressing one particular point. Why Apple has chosen this particular path is beyond my knowledge and probably outside the TOU (though not perhaps more than most of this honey pot ).
Do you believe that it's a good thing for a billion dollar corporation to limit the freedom of the consumers?
They are protecting their own intellectual property and profits. I believe that's a necessary evil. Consumers still have choices ("freedom" is way too loaded a word). No one will ever have all available choices. Choices are always limited in some way by someone.
Do you really believe that?
I'm not in the habit of posting things I don't believe.
I have a bridge to sell you.
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Feb 12, 2016 7:59 AM in response to Philly_Phanby gail from maine,You are asking specific questions that are asking us to speculate. We do not have any insight into why Apple does what they do, so answering any question that starts with the word "why" that involves anyone but ourselves, requires speculation. As to the ones where you are asking for our personal opinions, they would also violate the TOU since the answers would not be technical in nature:
- Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.
GB
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Feb 12, 2016 8:01 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
But it is relevant to this discussion.
I was addressing one particular point. Why Apple has chosen this particular path is beyond my knowledge and probably outside the TOU (though not perhaps more than most of this honey pot ).
Do you believe that it's a good thing for a billion dollar corporation to limit the freedom of the consumers?
They are protecting their own intellectual property and profits. I believe that's a necessary evil. Consumers still have choices ("freedom" is way too loaded a word). No one will ever have all available choices. Choices are always limited in some way by someone.
Do you really believe that?
I'm not in the habit of posting things I don't believe.
I have a bridge to sell you.
Are you qualified to sell bridges?
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Feb 12, 2016 8:01 AM in response to gail from maineby Philly_Phan,gail from maine wrote:
You are asking specific questions that are asking us to speculate. We do not have any insight into why Apple does what they do, so answering any question that starts with the word "why" that involves anyone but ourselves, requires speculation. As to the ones where you are asking for our personal opinions, they would also violate the TOU since the answers would not be technical in nature:
- Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.
GB
I never asked you to speculate. I wouldn't encourage anyone to violate the law Apple's protectionist policies.
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Feb 12, 2016 8:02 AM in response to Csound1by Philly_Phan,Csound1 wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Meg St._Clair wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
But it is relevant to this discussion.
I was addressing one particular point. Why Apple has chosen this particular path is beyond my knowledge and probably outside the TOU (though not perhaps more than most of this honey pot ).
Do you believe that it's a good thing for a billion dollar corporation to limit the freedom of the consumers?
They are protecting their own intellectual property and profits. I believe that's a necessary evil. Consumers still have choices ("freedom" is way too loaded a word). No one will ever have all available choices. Choices are always limited in some way by someone.
Do you really believe that?
I'm not in the habit of posting things I don't believe.
I have a bridge to sell you.
Are you qualified to sell bridges?
Sure. You give me money and I give you bridge. No fuss, no bother.
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Feb 12, 2016 8:03 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
How long has your company been in business?
Why does that matter to you?
Cant take advantage of their warranty if they go out of business, can we?
What does that have to do with the length of time they've been in business?
You don't know ?
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Feb 12, 2016 8:04 AM in response to Csound1by Philly_Phan,Csound1 wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
How long has your company been in business?
Why does that matter to you?
Cant take advantage of their warranty if they go out of business, can we?
What does that have to do with the length of time they've been in business?
You don't know ?
No. Didn't you realize that that's why I asked?
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Feb 12, 2016 8:05 AM in response to gail from maineby Philly_Phan,This has all been fun and games but I've got to go now. I do not have any doubt, however, that Apple has truly become the monolith corporation that they so successfully derided in the 1984 Super Bowl commercial.
Cheers!
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Feb 12, 2016 8:06 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,How do I know that your bridge will stand up, I have never heard of you (in the bridge building field) so must assume that you are not good at it. As I don't want to buy a rickety bridge I will buy it from someone with a track record of putting things up that stay up.
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Feb 12, 2016 8:06 AM in response to Philly_Phanby gail from maine,Your posts:
What is Apple's reason for not doing it voluntarily?
Why don't they?
Why did they make that choice?
Why is Apple afraid to explain their reasons for making decisions that adversely impact their customers?
All require speculation.
GB
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Feb 12, 2016 8:11 AM in response to gail from maineby Philly_Phan,Did you report Meg for speculating?
"They are protecting their own intellectual property and profits. I believe that's a necessary evil. Consumers still have choices ("freedom" is way too loaded a word). No one will ever have all available choices. Choices are always limited in some way by someone."
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Feb 12, 2016 8:17 AM in response to Philly_Phanby IdrisSeabright,Philly_Phan wrote:
Did you report Meg for speculating?
"They are protecting their own intellectual property and profits. I believe that's a necessary evil. Consumers still have choices ("freedom" is way too loaded a word). No one will ever have all available choices. Choices are always limited in some way by someone."
Gail is certainly free to do that. As are you. And, should the Host find it in violation, I will not complain. However, I think I could make a case for that being a fact. The speculation lies in whether that is the (only) reason for their actions.