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Feb 12, 2016 10:50 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,It means that there are no 3rd party repair facilities that use the right parts. So none of them can competently repair an iPhone (pad/pod)
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Feb 12, 2016 10:52 AM in response to Csound1by Philly_Phan,Csound1 wrote:
It means that there are no 3rd party repair facilities that use the right parts. So none of them can competently repair an iPhone (pad/pod)
More circular logic.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:53 AM in response to Csound1by Philly_Phan,Csound1 wrote:
It means that there are no 3rd party repair facilities that use the right parts. So none of them can competently repair an iPhone (pad/pod)
So YOUR ideal 3rd party repair shop is incompetent?
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Feb 12, 2016 10:53 AM in response to Csound1by Jonathan Aley,Csound1 wrote:
It means that there are no 3rd party repair facilities that use the right parts. So none of them can competently repair an iPhone (pad/pod)
There you have it folks. Right there in a nutshell. It can only be Apple, apparently.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:54 AM in response to Csound1by Philly_Phan,Csound1 wrote:
It's a circular world
No, it's spherical but that's likely well over your head.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:55 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Philly needs to know where Apple Stores and repair depots get parts from, apparently he won't accept that they get their parts from where they should get them, Apple.
Please describe where YOUR ideal 3rd party repair shop obtains those parts.
No matter how many times you ask the question my answer is the same.
From the manufacturer.. Write that down it will save you the effort of asking the same question again.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:56 AM in response to Csound1by Philly_Phan,Csound1 wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Philly needs to know where Apple Stores and repair depots get parts from, apparently he won't accept that they get their parts from where they should get them, Apple.
Please describe where YOUR ideal 3rd party repair shop obtains those parts.
No matter how many times you ask the question my answer is the same.
From the manufacturer.. Write that down it will save you the effort of asking the same question again.
You defended the fact that the manufacturer (Apple) refuses to sell to you. Using your logic, your personnel are incompetent.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:59 AM in response to Jonathan Aleyby Csound1,Jonathan Aley wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
It means that there are no 3rd party repair facilities that use the right parts. So none of them can competently repair an iPhone (pad/pod)
There you have it folks. Right there in a nutshell. It can only be Apple, apparently.
Yes that is what I am saying, the entire 3rd party mess is made up of incompetent repair shops, everyone should use repair shops the use the correct parts, which are new, not ripped out of some other defective iPhone for convenience.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:01 AM in response to Csound1by Jonathan Aley,Pretty blanket statement. I'll skip asking you to prove that. I've already seen how that goes... "You don't have to". You can just throw out whatever allegation you want. Must be great, being you.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:03 AM in response to Philly_Phanby Csound1,Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Philly_Phan wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
Philly needs to know where Apple Stores and repair depots get parts from, apparently he won't accept that they get their parts from where they should get them, Apple.
Please describe where YOUR ideal 3rd party repair shop obtains those parts.
No matter how many times you ask the question my answer is the same.
From the manufacturer.. Write that down it will save you the effort of asking the same question again.
You defended the fact that the manufacturer (Apple) refuses to sell to you. Using your logic, your personnel are incompetent.
Apple has never refused to sell parts to me, not once. But I don't repair iPhones so it does not matter.
And enough of this nonsense, every one can and should do what they want with their iPhone. Get it repaired by anyone who claims to be able to.
Just don't ask me unless you want a recommendation to use Apple.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:08 AM in response to Jonathan Aleyby Csound1,Jonathan Aley wrote:
Pretty blanket statement. I'll skip asking you to prove that. I've already seen how that goes... "You don't have to". You can just throw out whatever allegation you want. Must be great, being you.
I'll ask you in turn to disprove it.
I dislike fake parts, used parts and untrained staff, I find all among the 3rd party repair shops, maybe not all but enough of them to make the whole industry one to avoid.
Yes it is a pretty blanket statement, but i stand by it.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:07 AM in response to Csound1by Jonathan Aley,Csound1 wrote:
Jonathan Aley wrote:
Pretty blanket statement. I'll skip asking you to prove that. I've already seen how that goes... "You don't have to". You can just throw out whatever allegation you want. Must be great, being you.
I'll ask you in turn to disprove it.
I disprove it every day to my customers. As you have pointed out many times, you aren't a customer of mine, or any other repair place. I'll use your logic: There's no need to prove it.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:07 AM in response to Csound1by love repair,YOUR logic says that repair with a part that is not "from Apple" is somehow inferior. But in practice, this just doesn't seem to be true. We have to work very hard to get original quality parts---many of which I believe ARE the actual Apple part. As in "we make part X. This box we send to FoxConn, and this box we sell on the open market in China."
Would you agree that parts sourcing and the brand of the part may be less important than the result of the repair?
This is what this looks like.
I have an iPhone 5 with a bad headphone jack, otherwise working. I'd like to give it to my son, but he is a runner and uses headphones regularly. He wants me to buy him a new phone.My options are: I can go visit a quality shop for a $49 dock connector swap and walk out with a phone that has a working headphone jack and a 6 month warranty on the repair, give it to my son. Done today. Cost = $49. Warranty = 6 months on the repair
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I can make an appointment, drive a few hours. Be seen by a "genius" and be told that Apple does not replace iPhone 5 headphone jacks, but that I could turn in my iPhone 5 (which has a value of about $50 according to eBay parts not working category recently sold) AND pay them $269 and walk out with a new iPhone 5. Cost = $320 Warranty = 90 days on the whole phone.
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I can throw it in the trash and just buy a good condition iPhone 5 online and hope it is not iCloud locked, and inherit any problems that phone has
Cost = $110 Warranty = not much
Most people would pick option A. I would argue the warranty is more important than the part source.
Which points to the question--How do I know if I can trust a repair shop? Look at their warranty.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:10 AM in response to Csound1by love repair,Apple is not the manufacturer of most of the parts in the iPhone. Apple is like the general contractor on a house job. He knows a good plumber, a good electrician, a good drywaller. And he puts it all together.
We believe that we can buy the wire, drywall, and pipes that are used in the phone directly from the ACTUAL manufacturer---which is not Apple.
We can not prove this, but I really don't think it matters in terms of practical repair and functional results.