rshammaa
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Q: Having to eject external Aperture drive

Hi,

Long time no see!

 

I now have Aperture and Light Room on the same external drive. After I close the software, I often have to force eject the drive to disconnect it from my computer. Here is the alert I get. Any ideas?  Thanks a lot.

 

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MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)

Posted on Feb 17, 2016 7:58 PM

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  • by léonie,Helpful

    léonie léonie Mar 8, 2016 12:07 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 8, 2016 12:07 PM in response to rshammaa

    Have you found the answer by now, Raphael?

     

    I think, that the problem is, that quitting an application does no longer suffice to release the ressources it is holding.

    Since "Automatic Termination" has been introduced with MacOS X Lion we can no longer be sure, if an application has really been quit, when we use the Quit command. Aperture or Lightroom may still be holding ressources while waiting to be resumed.

    See;  http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/8/#process-model

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 8, 2016 12:09 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 8, 2016 12:09 PM in response to léonie

    Thank you Léonie. I think you are correct.

     

    Someone in the Lightroom forum suggested using Automator, an Apple application part of the OS, to shut all applications before turning computer off.

    It does do that, but not those on THIS external drive. Oh, well.

     

    Point is, I needed to know whether that was something I was doing, or even something I need or can do something about, And I still don't know the answer to this one.

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    léonie léonie Mar 8, 2016 12:22 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 8, 2016 12:22 PM in response to rshammaa

    You can only be sure you quit an application if you log off or shut down the computer.

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 8, 2016 1:29 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 8, 2016 1:29 PM in response to léonie

    The question as to what to do, and to this post, arises when I do quit the application and yet can't eject the drive.

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    léonie léonie Mar 8, 2016 1:53 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 8, 2016 1:53 PM in response to rshammaa

    Aperture may be doing a lot of processing after you try to quit it. What are your prferences setting for Previews?

    If you have Previews and Share XML enabled, quitting can take a long time:

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 8, 2016 2:00 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 8, 2016 2:00 PM in response to léonie

    Makes sense.

     

    Same must be true with LR which is all I use now. Both Aperture and LR libraries are on same external drive. Having said that, using the software for an hour before shutting it down ought to be plenty of time to create the previews, even 1:1 and smart previews.

     

    Don't you think?

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    léonie léonie Mar 8, 2016 2:12 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 8, 2016 2:12 PM in response to rshammaa

    It should, unless you have set the preference to When quitting aperture". The  generation will only start after you quit Aperture. set this preference to Always or Never.

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 8, 2016 2:12 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 8, 2016 2:12 PM in response to léonie

    Thank you Léonie.

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    léonie léonie Mar 8, 2016 2:13 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 8, 2016 2:13 PM in response to rshammaa

    You're welcome, Raphael.

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 8, 2016 2:23 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 8, 2016 2:23 PM in response to léonie

    Nice to connect again, under whichever pretext.

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 28, 2016 7:38 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 28, 2016 7:38 PM in response to léonie

    Léonie,

    I find myself forced to keep Force Ejecting my external drive. Can that cause problems?

    Thanks,

     

    Raphael

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 28, 2016 10:40 PM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 28, 2016 10:40 PM in response to rshammaa

    I find myself forced to keep Force Ejecting my external drive. Can that cause problems?

    Thanks,

     

    That drive is holding the photo libraries for Aperture and Lightroom, right?

     

     

    I don't ave much experience with Lightroom, but but if you force quit Aperture and eject the drive before Aperture could close the library properly, the library may me damaged and Aperture may refuse to open it again and insist on repairing the library. force quitting can result in lost data, because not all metadata changes and edits ay have been saved to the library.

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    rshammaa rshammaa Mar 29, 2016 4:38 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 29, 2016 4:38 AM in response to léonie

    What actually happens is that both Aperture and LR are closed when I Force Eject. I use an Apple utility called Automator to end all applications before ejecting the drive. And I check my dock too before ejecting to make sure all apps are closed; but still I have to Force Eject.

     

    So is anything at risk at that point? Thanks.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 29, 2016 5:46 AM in response to rshammaa
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    Mar 29, 2016 5:46 AM in response to rshammaa

    It is hard to say, if both applications have really quit, after you closed them.  Are there any Aperture or Lightroom processes left in the Activity  Monitor? If yes, then it still a slight risk when you force eject.

     

    Have you tried to log off instead of force ejecting?

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