Q: Does the iphone have push button WIFI (WPS)? Because I really want a IPhone!!

I hear you on the working part! There's only so much testing to troubleshoot issues that I'm willing to do here - I have to do that much of the day for work, and I'm lucky if I can finish up by 6 - so, a Reset/Recovery OK - resetting my router with a 129-character password.....I don't think so

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Well I just found out that Apple does support WPS in some of their devices so ...... no comment.

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-is-apples-reason-for-now-allowing-wps-o r-dlna.1601112/

And here is the answer from someone at the highest levels of Apple

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-use-a-push-button-WPS-Wi-Fi-setup-with-the-iPhone- iPad

Phil may not have minded the insecurity in WPS but others in Apple did (thank god they didn't make him the man in charge) and their proposed replacement used a different security algorithm.

Jsibauste wrote:

 

 

 

And here is the answer from someone at the highest levels of Apple

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-use-a-push-button-WPS-Wi-Fi-setup-with-the-iPhone- iPad

Where on that page do you see anyone from the "highest levels of Apple" commenting? One "former Apple employee" is all I can find.

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That is just nonsense. Most high-end WiFi enabled home routers and gateways have this additional feature. It is not an either or. All newer ones have strong WPA2 encryption and in addition, they allow the owners to use the WPS button to connect their devices at their own discretion.

 

From my Verizon hotspot to my Netgear router and several others that I own, to the latest AT&T WiFi router they setup today for me and most devices, including WiFi enabled printers, tablets, etc, include this feature. Nobody is moving away, they are actually incorporating it more and more. Again, this is an additional feature included with the devices.

 

I am not sure why Apple has not included this feature because it is used at the "owners discretion". Those who want to use it can use it, and those who don't can enter the password for their WiFi.

 

Recently, my brother changed routers and he had problems entering the password on an iPhone 5. The router's password was too long for the space given in the iPhone but he just told me after numerous tries he was able to enter it. Sometimes when selecting the wrong encryption, the password lengths may be different.

Belive what you wish, but if you read up a little and understand how the WPS standard works, and what's wrong with it, you'll realize it's so full of flaws and vulnerabilities that it really offers no security at all. It's tossed in because it's easy and simple so it markets well, but it is not secure, not at all.

Yes, an exaggeration in my part , nevertheless, he was representing Apple at the Wi-Fi Alliance and seemed someone would could influence the direction of the company in this case.

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I never liked the whole button pushing thing and I fought vehemently against static PINs being printed on devices when I was representing Apple at the Wi-Fi Alliance.

I left Apple before I had a chance to try to push it into the Wi-Fi Alliance as a new WPS standard and no one else at Apple was motivated to go try to do so after I was gone.

Nevertheless, Apple does use WPS in their Airport devices just totally destroying the argument that they don't because of this or that.

No, Apple does NOT use WPS in any of their devices.

Jsibauste wrote:

 

Yes, an exaggeration in my part , nevertheless, he was representing Apple at the Wi-Fi Alliance and seemed someone would could influence the direction of the company in this case.

 

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I never liked the whole button pushing thing and I fought vehemently against static PINs being printed on devices when I was representing Apple at the Wi-Fi Alliance.

I left Apple before I had a chance to try to push it into the Wi-Fi Alliance as a new WPS standard and no one else at Apple was motivated to go try to do so after I was gone.

Which all could mean anything from he was Jobs's golfing buddy and helped him make policy to he was one of many, many people who worked on WiFi at Apple and he went to a conference.

He was an Apple engineer involved with WiFi at a lower level at Apple but takes credit (often) for the development of WiFi on the iPhone. He left Apple in 2008. Since it is now 2016 I don't think any information he provides is valid any longer.

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He was an Apple engineer involved with WiFi at a lower level at Apple but takes credit (often) for the development of WiFi on the iPhone. He left Apple in 2008. Since it is now 2016 I don't think any information he provides is valid any longer.

Thanks. I couldn't find out much about him on a Google search.

You can read and draw your own conclussions or create your own illusions.

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-use-a-push-button-WPS-Wi-Fi-setup-with-the-iPhone- iPad/answer/Phil-Kearney?srid=uJ5Ro

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by Jesse Hollington

 

The standards process is such fun, isn't it? Without someone committed to the right things, wrong things (or just really inadequate things) are what we get.

 

 

 

 

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Jon Plummer

Interestingly, the statement "No Apple devices support WPS even to this day" seems to be not quite correct. p14 of the current (6th gen) Apple Airport Extreme Setup Guide (Official Apple Support) shows how to use a WPS pin to connect a WPS device to the Airport Extreme. This may not be certified WPS support, however, so there's some semantic wiggle room. This has also been true in prior versions, for example on p25 of the 4th gen Airport ExtremeSetup Guide (Page on apple.com).

 

 

 

 

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Yes, I read all of that, I noted the date and I know when he left Apple. He was not involved at all with any Apple products other than WiFi on the iPhone. The original iPhone released in 2007 DID NOT support WPS. He was not involved with any other Apple products such as Macs, Airport, etc. and would not know whether they supported WPS or not (they didn't). He doesn't have any special insight into any subsequent iPhones and had no involvement with the iPad. And nothing he says within his answer says anything different. Since you could find his article it shouldn't take too much work on your part to find out about the insecurities of WPS that have already been referenced here. Or you can keep reposting this and look like a fool.

Yes, I read the Quora discussion when you first posted the link. And, no, nothing there gives me any particular reason to trust the source.

Well it doesn't affect me whether you think I look like a fool or not but the facts are there. I am aware of the network insecurities, nevertheless WPS is only a feature in devices and not the only option and can be easily disabled but I understand in some ways why Apple would not want to give this option to their users. This may be too complicated and may not want to upset their users with options . By the way, I have an iPad that I like very much.

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/27918/hacking/wi-fi-wps-hacking.html

No, the facts are NOT contained in the article you keep pushing. The facts are that Apple chose never to support WPS on any of their devices. Anyone who wants them to can send feedback but given the amount of time that has passed and the lack of support for WPS (as to updating the security) I don't see that ever happening.