Backing up my entire MBP (Mountain Lion)

For reasons best left to themselves, I wish to be mired in OS X 10.8.5. I do not wish to upgrade to any more recent system.


But I would like to back up my entire MBP (mid-2012, 13") onto a newly-purchased 5TB hard drive, which is currently empty. I have three other Macs that I also want to back up (all running Mountain Lion) but I want to start with that one (I'm now typing on a 15" MBP. The 13" is sitting idle so I wanted to start with that).


Ideally, I'd like to just back up the entire thing in like a giant clone of the entire thing—data, settings etc. etc. so that it could conceivably be just reinstalled lock-stock-and barrel onto, say, another identical MBP sometime in the mythical future, and would preserve everything—settings, passwords in all apps, etc. etc. in the least complicated manner.


I see that Apple no longer supports its pages for Mountain Lion so that's why I'm here . . . I know all about Time Machine but I was wondering if there is some other all-in-one shot way to do this—ideally it would be, hook up the MBP to the hard drive with a USB 2.0 cable and then copy the entire contents of the computer onto the drive in one long, ERROR-FREE shot. In other words, it would be nice to wake up the next morning and not see an error message saying "The operation couldn't be completed because of an Error A-97" . . . you know, one of those cheery sorts of errors that always seem to pop up after 37 hours' waiting time.


Any suggestions?


Thanks in advance!

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Feb 22, 2016 9:09 AM

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Feb 22, 2016 9:17 AM in response to Nicholas Robinson1

Basic Backup


For some people Time Machine will be more than adequate. Time Machine is part of OS X. There are two components:


1. A Time Machine preferences panel as part of System Preferences;

2. A Time Machine application located in the Applications folder. It is

used to manage backups and to restore backups. Time Machine

requires a backup drive that is at least twice the capacity of the

drive being backed up.

3. Time Machine requires a backup drive that is at least double the

capacity of the drive(s) it backs up.


Alternatively, get an external drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility.


Clone Yosemite, Mavericks, Lion/Mountain Lion using Restore Option of Disk Utility


Boot to the Recovery HD:


Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.


1. Select Disk Utility from the main menu then press the Continue

button.

2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.

3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.

4. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it

to the Destination entry field.

5. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to

the Source entry field.

6. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.


Destination means the external backup drive. Source means the internal startup drive.


You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):


1. Carbon Copy Cloner

2. Get Backup

3. Deja Vu

4. SuperDuper!


Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore. Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files. For help with using Time Machine visit Pondini's Time Machine FAQ for help with Time Machine.


Although you can buy a complete external drive system, you can also put one together if you are so inclined. It's relatively easy and only requires a Phillips head screwdriver (typically.) You can purchase hard drives separately. This gives you an opportunity to shop for the best prices on a hard drive of your choice. Reliable brands include Seagate, Hitachi, Western Digital, Toshiba, and Fujitsu. You can find reviews and benchmarks on many drives at Storage Review.


Enclosures for FireWire and USB are readily available. You can find only FireWire enclosures, only USB enclosures, and enclosures that feature multiple ports. I would stress getting enclosures that use the Oxford chipsets especially for Firewire drives (911, 921, 922, for example.) You can find enclosures at places such as;


1. Cool Drives

2. OWC

3. WiebeTech

4. Firewire Direct

5. California Drives

6. NewEgg


All you need do is remove a case cover, mount the hard drive in the enclosure and connect the cables, then re-attach the case cover. Usually the only tool required is a small or medium Phillips screwdriver.

Feb 22, 2016 9:29 AM in response to Nicholas Robinson1

Note that since Intel-based Macs use EFI as the boot mechanism, you can partition a physical drive into as many volumes as you like and each can be bootable.


In other words, you can split the 5TB into slices large enough to hold the current contents of the Macs, clone using Disk Utility (slow but free) or Carbon Copy Cloner (fast and even incremental, but for a cost) and leave the rest for future use. Do a Get Info on the Macs' boot volume (usually Macintosh HD) to determine what's the exact amount of room being used, just add at least 2-3 times the amount of RAM for swap space in case you need to boot from the clone.



Edit: should have known that blazin'-fingers Kappy was back in the saddle....

Feb 22, 2016 9:34 AM in response to Nicholas Robinson1

Hi Nicholas:


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The easiest way to backup your Macs are using Carbon Copy Cloner. https://bombich.com/ It will allow you to make a complete bootable backup of your Mac.

You said you are using a 5TB drive and you have 4 Macs.

Each Carbon Copy Cloner backup for each mac will need its own volume.

So the easiest way is to partition your new drive as 5 partitions. One for each Mac and an extra one for whatever.

Each partition will have to be large enough for each Mac. So if your Mac has a 500 GB hard drive, make the partition for that Mac 500 GB.


Here is some information from CCC. https://bombich.com/kb/ccc4/i-want-backup-multiple-machines-or-hard-drives-same- hard-drive

Here is another link on how to prepare your drive. https://bombich.com/kb/ccc4/preparing-your-backup-disk-backup-os-x


Also here is a video of how to use CCC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30sEXyINS44


Kim

Feb 22, 2016 9:42 AM in response to Courcoul

Thanks, Courcoul, for a non cut-and-paste reply. I was thinking about partitioning the 5TB into, say, 5 different partitions but I know that making a bootable clone is notoriously difficult in OS X (I'm from the OS 9 and previous school) so I want to make sure there are no tiny details that will force me to call the App Store or some such to access the clone—in the past I've had so many myriad problems even just installing a completely new copy of Mountain Lion on a computer, let alone copying another one, I'm incredibly leery of trying to create bootable clones.


If I did partition the 5TB, what size partitions should I divide it into, and do I make them "Extended-journaled" and all that stuff, or what? Surely there must be some step by step tutorial on how to do a complete partition/backup with a computer running Mountain Lion?


To others who have suggested third-party stuff like Super Duper etc. yes, I'm well aware of them, but back in the good old days you didn't need third party software to do things as basic as this, and besides, this IS Mountain Lion, and perhaps if I ran into trouble with these 3rd-party apps they will not have a solution available because the entire conundrum is so old. Or, that they will make me pay $79.99 for the privilege of getting "the full features."


As far as Time Machine goes—I can't stand it. I've had nothing but problems with its unintuitive interface and its cryptic (aforementioned) error messages that only occur after you've been cooling your heels for 37 hours and have no explanation and no solution.


So . . . *assuming* there are no errors lurking in the mountains of code that might prevent a bootable copy, shall I start with wiping the new HD and dividing it into 5 partitions of 1TB each?Is it a bad idea to just clone each computer onto one large 5TB partition, or does that remove the bootability?

Feb 22, 2016 9:47 AM in response to Nicholas Robinson1

1. Unless you have a reason to do something different, create five 1TB partitions formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

2. You can just clone each computer. You won’t need to contact the Mac App Store, or encounter any similar issues as long as you only boot each computer from its own clone. If you start up a Mac from a clone of a different computer, the Mac and OS need to be compatible, a small number of preferences, such as the Energy Saver ones, won’t carry over, and some commercial software may refuse to run.


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Feb 22, 2016 9:46 AM in response to KimUserName

Kim


Wow! Cool. You were writing your answer as I was posting my reply to Courcoul. So the 5 1TB partitions is the way to go? I don't know the actual hard drive space of ALL my computers, but none of them is over 1TB. But don't they say that you need at least double that to make a backup? That would mean two 2-TB partitions and one 1-TB partition. See what I mean on potential complications *sigh*


I will check out the links! Much obliged


Nick

Feb 22, 2016 10:00 AM in response to Nicholas Robinson1

If you want to use Disk Utility, once you have selected the DEVICE corresponding to the drive, you can partition (and make sure it is formatted in GUID/Apple Extended (Journaled) scheme, visit the Options button. Most drives come in MBR/NTFS format nowadays and that won't work) Once that is done, go to the Restore tab and "restore" the Mac's Macintosh HD volume onto the corresponding partition of the external. Since it is an exact byte-for-byte copy, it is bootable by definition. The old "blessing the system folder" days of pre-OS X are long gone.

Feb 22, 2016 10:08 AM in response to KimUserName

Kim


The price is not really a concern (well, as long as it's less than $40!) but I need to know that this will be infallible.


One good thing going for me is that I'm not messing with multiple versions of the OS (Yosemite, Leopard, Mountain Lion etc) but as someone else mentioned, there ARE other 3rd-party options—what makes CCC the best choice, in your opinion?

Feb 22, 2016 10:10 AM in response to Nicholas Robinson1

Nicholas Robinson1 wrote:


Kim


The price is not really a concern (well, as long as it's less than $40!) but I need to know that this will be infallible.


One good thing going for me is that I'm not messing with multiple versions of the OS (Yosemite, Leopard, Mountain Lion etc) but as someone else mentioned, there ARE other 3rd-party options—what makes CCC the best choice, in your opinion?

Unlike the competition CCC can transfer the recovery partition as well as the rest of the data. If that doesn't matter to you it is the only advantage CCC has over other methods.

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