Transferring iTunes content to another PC - multiple issues

Hi


I bought a new laptop (Windows 10) and wished to transfer my iTunes to it from PC (Vista), via hard drive (and leave duplicates on hard drive for back up).


I've got 20,000 tunes and hundreds of playlists.


On the first attempt I ended up with no playlists and 9,000 tunes.


On the second attempt (replacing the new library with the one from the PC) I ended up with playlists up to 2014 and only 9,000 tunes


On the third, 17,000 tunes and full playlists - but only up to 2014.


I can only assume I'm not transferring across up-to-date itls? I tried exporting library and playlist to ensure they're u-t-d but I'm not certain that is the correct method.


Any ideas? Can't chuck out the old PC until I'm certain this is done.


Thanks


Matthew

iPod classic, Windows 10

Posted on Feb 23, 2016 5:01 AM

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Feb 23, 2016 6:12 AM in response to Eccles1978

Migrate an iTunes library from one computer to another


These are two possible approaches that will normally work to move an existing library to a new computer.


Method 1

  1. Backup the library with this User Tip.
  2. Deauthorize the old computer if you no longer want to access protected content on it.
  3. Restore the backup to your new computer using the same tool used to back it up.
  4. Keep your backup up-to-date in future.


Method 2

Connect the two computers to the same network. Share your <User's Music> folder from the old computer and copy the entire iTunes library folder into the <User's Music> folder on the new one. Again, deauthorize the old computer if no longer required.


Both methods should give the new computer a working clone of the library that was on the old one. As far as iTunes is concerned this is still the "home" library for your devices so you shouldn't have any issues with iTunes wanting to erase and reload.


I'd recommend method 1 since it establishes an ongoing backup for your library.


Note if you have iOS devices and haven't moved your contacts and calendar items across then you should create one dummy entry of each in your new profile and iTunes should merge the existing data from the device.


If your media folder has been split out from the main iTunes folder you may need to do some preparatory work to make it easier to move. See Make a split library portable.


Should you be in the unfortunate position where you are no longer able to access your original library or a backup then then see Recover your iTunes library from your iPod or iOS device for advice on how to set up your devices with a new library with the maximum preservation of data.



tt2

Feb 23, 2016 3:24 PM in response to turingtest2

Hi tt2


I've installed synctoy on both the PC and the laptop.


Having looked at the PC content to create the left folder for, I'm conscious that there's an iTunes folder in PC C drive which I suspect has up-to-date libraries in it etc. The external hard drive however has had the media for a while (due to space constraints). Furthermore, due to my earlier attempts, I think that I've already transferred some content over to the external hard drive in the process of trying to successfully put it across to the laptop.


Looks like I may need to prep the folders first as in your post before I create the left folder.


I'll let you know how I get on - will have to wait til tomorrow night!


Thanks


Eccles

Feb 24, 2016 3:44 AM in response to turingtest2

I've been reading through your helpful information and thought I'd show some images of folders in case I'm missing anything? I assume I'm following the XXXXXXXXX page you wrote.


C Drive of PC


This is what currently remains. The Music or Media was transferred a year or so ago (which may explain the old playlist libraries):

User uploaded file



Below is a folder that I created in the external hard drive to house the PC iTunes stuff. Not sure if it's exactly the same?

User uploaded file


Below is the iTunes folder that I've been trying to use to transfer to the new laptop:

User uploaded file


Not sure if this makes any difference. My main issue is not being certain whether I'm moving across everything I need, how to ensure my libraries/playlists are up-to-date, and finally whether I'm placing files in the wrong places.


Anyway, if you get a chance to have a look, and it's simply a case of me reading and following some of your guides, let me know.


Thanks


Matthew

Feb 24, 2016 5:19 AM in response to Eccles1978

Take a look at the images in Make a split library portable. From yours above it is clear that you've managed to put both the application and the library in the same folder at some point, possibly during an earlier migration. The iTunes application is normally stored in C:\Program Files\iTunes or C:\Program Files (x86)\iTunes with some other components in C:\Program Files\Common Files\... The library is normally placed in C:\Users\<User>\Music\iTunes.


Most Windows software won't work if you simply copy the files from one system to another. It must be installed so that all of the components are recorded in the registry. You should only backup the media and the library files.


Where is your active iTunes Library.itl file?

Where is the media folder according to Edit > Preferences > Advanced?

Is all the media connected to the library in that media folder, or only some of it?


tt2

Feb 24, 2016 5:26 AM in response to Eccles1978

Based on your screenshots you've merged the iTunes application files (which should always be on your system disc) and your iTunes library files/folders. There's absolutely no benefit in mixing these up. Does your iTunes setup work on the old PC, i.e., can iTunes find / play / sync all your media files? If so, then follow the steps described in tt2's user tip on Make a split library portable to separate the library content so that it can moved to the new PC. I'd suggest the following procedure:


  • get another external hard drive (you'll need one anyway to create and maintain backups once your library has been migrated)
  • on the new external drive, create a folder called "iTunes" and within this a folder called "iTunes Media" - but don't attempt to copy anything here from your existing setup
  • run iTunes, select Edit > Preference > Advanced and change the iTunes Media folder location to your new external drive (i.e., if this is drive "X:", the setting in iTunes should be "X:\iTunes\iTunes Media"
  • still in iTunes, select File > Library > Organize Library ... - then check the "Consolidate files" box and, if not greyed out, the "Reorganize files ..." box.
  • click "OK" ... with 20,000 files in your library, this is a good time to have a coffee while the process completes😉
  • when the consolidation process has finished, exit iTunes
  • now copy the following files and folders from your old PC to the external drive, putting them all into the X:iTunes folder:
    • Album Artwork (folder)
    • Previous iTunes Libraries (folder)
    • iTunes Library Extras.itdb (file)
    • iTunes Library Genius.itdb (file)
    • iTunes Library.itl (file - this is the critical piece as this is where your library content is defined and your playlists, ratings, play counts, etc. are stored)
  • the result should be a structure like this in the root of the external hard drive:
    User uploaded file
  • eject and disconnect the new external drive from the old PC
  • connect the new external hard drive to the new PC
  • on the new PC, start iTunes while holding down the SHIFT key - when you see this prompt:
    User uploaded file
    click on Choose Library... and navigate to and select the iTunes Library.itl file on the external drive.


Once you've verified that everything's present and correct you can delete all the iTunes content from the old external drive and use this to create and subsequently maintain a backup of your library.


Lastly, unless your proposing to continue using iTunes on the old Vista machine, deauthorize your Apple ID on that machine before you decommission / dispose of it.

Feb 24, 2016 7:22 AM in response to turingtest2

Hi tt2


Thought so. I think on my second attempt I managed to move individual files into the wrong positions.


The media folder in Preferences>Advanced is Seagate external. Has been for a few years now and all media is on it. However, I wonder whether at one point I loaded up iTunes without the hard drive connected and it may have reverted back to C, which may explain the existence of some 'fresh' folders.

The active library itl file was at one point in Seagate>iTunes>iTunes Media too - and I'm not sure if this was due to an 'update' from iTunes (whereby the media folder briefly held files other than music etc. Again this could have been due to tinkering on my part!


I'll consolidate and update everything on C Drive and have a look at synctoy once I've gone through the split library doc.


Thanks

Feb 24, 2016 7:26 AM in response to hhgttg27

The second the ex hard drive is connected to the PC, all music works perfectly.


I appreciate there is no benefit to mixing the files up. See above - I think I made that mistake when the migration first failed.


I'll go through the docs and synctoy procedure tonight.


Am I right in assuming consolidation also creates an u-t-d library? I tried this before but wasn't entirely sure. By that point though I think the process had got unwieldy.


Thanks for you help.

Feb 24, 2016 10:24 AM in response to Eccles1978

Consolidation does one thing - it moves any library content that is not contained within the specified iTunes Media folder location into that folder structure. If the "Reorganize files ..." option is chosen then files and folders will be renamed to follow iTunes' canonical scheme, using Artist, Album and Song Name metadata values to locate and name items as iTunes Media\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\<Song Name>.<extension>. When applied to an existing library with a new / empty iTunes Media folder location, it will copy all valid content of the library from its existing location (wherever that is) to the well-formed layout illustrated in the image in my previous response. So, when you ask whether it creates an "up to date" library, it reflects the current content of your iTunes library database, but won't do anything with:


  • entries in the iTunes database that don't have a valid reference to an underlying media file (i.e., "broken links")
  • any media files that are in your existing library folders (or anywhere else on your PC) that don't have an entry in the iTunes database (i.e., "orphan files")

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