musophile01
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Q: strange yosemite experiences

Ok, so here's a strange story and I wondered if anyone had any ideas about it.

 

I live in the UK, and have been looking to replace my MacBook Pro, which had Yosemite on it, but

which got written off as scrap due to accidental water damage.

 

So I looked on Amazon, and my first thoughts were that this wouldn't be a problem, since most if not all

of the MacBook Pros they had on offer seemed to have Yosemite on them as an operating system.

 

I ordered one of these through what looked like a respectable trader, but when it arrived it had El Capitan pre-installed

instead. On discovering that it is no longer possible to legally downgrade, I sent this back for a full re-fund.

 

Next I turned to the Curry's store in the UK, where again they appeared to have a MacBook Pro with Yosemite. Put in

an order, but lo and behold, when it arrived, it came with El Capitan once more. (This was especially weird,

as it was advertised as new, and was a hardware model which dated back to 2012).  Again, this was sent back for a full refund.

 

Finally, I looked again on Amazon and ordered what appeared to be a Yosemite model through Amazon s.a.r.l themselves.

 

Having been bitten before, this time I even sent an email specifically asking whether they could be sure it was a Yosemite machine.

Reply came that they were quite certain it was, and I didn't need to worry about it matching the specifications that were

advertised.

 

To my astonishment, however, this has turned out to have El Capitan as well.

 

So this time I cannot be bothered to send the machine back, but I'm just wondering what may be behind this phenomenon?

 

My understanding is that there is no way to put Yosemite on the machine in a legitimate manner, but perhaps I have missed

something, and there is some way to do this?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X El Capitan (10.11), null

Posted on Feb 26, 2016 1:41 PM

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  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 29, 2016 12:41 PM in response to musophile01
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    Feb 29, 2016 12:41 PM in response to musophile01

    musophile01 wrote:

     

    Thanks Drew Reece, no I didn't save Yosemite, even back when I had the operating system on my laptop.

    You have misunderstood my question - I didn't ask if you saved the OS I asked if it was in your App store purchases. You can redownload it if you have it a as purchase. it may allow you to install 10.10.

     

    musophile01 wrote:

    Every single one said that they didn't know, and that they couldn't offer me that assurance. So it strikes me that something is going a bit wrong here. I cannot for the life of me imagine companies selling Windows 7 laptops, and then thinking it perfectly acceptable to send a machine with Windows 10 instead (or else thinking that it might be the Windows 7 they had advertised, but they couldn't be sure.) It's absurd!


    Wasn't Microsoft forcibly updating Windows 7 & 8 machines to W10? I thought they released their own 'disable GWX' tool to disable that feature after users found their PC had upgraded behind their back. New MS updates re-enabled GWX too, apparently undoing registry changes. MS is not a great company to pick as an example in this regard. Apple are determined to get everyone on the latest release, but so far they have not forced an OS upgrade.

     

    I understand it is frustrating to not know what you are purchasing, personally I'd visit an Apple store & request a Mac with the OS you need. or hunt down an older model - it is the only way to guarantee it can run on older OS.

     

    musophile01 wrote:

     

    Since Kappy has such long experience working with Macs (looking at his profile), I also wonder if it's a new thing that they have configured the machines to stop them reverting back to stock or their original operating system. Does seem a very uncompromising approach by Apple, anyway.

    I have been using Macs for over 20 years (I don't really want to count it accurately ). They have always had a 'minimum supported OS'. It is just not clear if they have tied it to the 'shipping version only' or if you can go to 10.10 because the model initially shipped with it.

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