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Q: Can't Restore from Time Machine Back Ups- -kernel panic

I have a MacBook (intel, 2009) that was running 10.6.8. I have 2 gigs of ram and abt 40% of hard disk space available. I started having a lot of interruptions w/spinning beachball. It first started happening mostly while online and I thought it was bc I can no longer update safari, firefox bc I already have the latest version that 10.6.8 will allow. But lately, the interruptions started happening while I was working on files (Indesign, photoshop,etc...) I tried trashing various prefs, caches, etc, as recommended- -no joy. I tested the hardware, ran disk utility, and repaired permissions many times, everything checks out ok there. I felt it was time to try and restore system from a previous version from my Time machine backups, back to when I was experiencing no problems. When I did that I started up from my DVD and restored the system from a back up. Problem is - - I have not been able to reboot w/the back up. I get the ker

nel panic screen which says the system isnt set. I tried several different back ups that I have made over the past 2 years, but no joy. If I reinstall from scratch from the dvd it restores fine. Problem is I have a ton of applications and emails that I have backed up that I can not use w/the original OS on the disk- -10.5. My question is- -since nothing seems to be wrong w/the computer itself, am I wrong to think these back ups can restore the system? Or is time machine essentially for backing up files? Thats not what I understood it to be, but it seems like thats what happening- -it doesnt recognize a system folder. The other question is, if I shell out to go back to 10.6 will I be able to restore my applications from the back ups?  Thank you in advance for any direction on this.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Kernel panic

Posted on Feb 28, 2016 7:53 AM

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  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 28, 2016 4:26 PM in response to woopit2013
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    Feb 28, 2016 4:26 PM in response to woopit2013

    See ifyou can find something on Pondini's site http://pondini.org/TM/Home.html

  • by my ginger,

    my ginger my ginger Feb 28, 2016 4:31 PM in response to woopit2013
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    Feb 28, 2016 4:31 PM in response to woopit2013

    You old backups from 10.5 may not work well in the 10.6 system.  Do you have a 10.6 disk? As I understand it, you cannot do a complete restore from time machine in 10.6. You can however restore select files. To do the complete restore using time machine you would have to have Lion or newer.  As you use time machine, it deletes older backups as disk space is used. So If you have the 10.6 install disk, you can reinstall with it . It will do the install of the operating system, without deleting personal files. Then you can use software update to get to 10.6.8 If you were to upgrade the memory to 4 or 6GB you can run El Capitan which is a free download. The requirements are to have 10.6.8 or newer installed. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250 What install disks do you have?

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 28, 2016 5:00 PM in response to my ginger
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    Feb 28, 2016 5:00 PM in response to my ginger

    my ginger wrote:

     

    As I understand it, you cannot do a complete restore from time machine in 10.6. You can however restore select files. To do the complete restore using time machine you would have to have Lion or newer. 

    Not true.

    You can restore your entire system to the exact condition it was in at the time of any Time Machine backup, even if it's a different version of OSX (unless you excluded System folders: see question #11).

    http://pondini.org/TM/14.html

  • by my ginger,

    my ginger my ginger Feb 28, 2016 8:46 PM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 28, 2016 8:46 PM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Mike Did you click on my link. I read it before I selected it. What I got was that you could restore select files from time machine, but to do a full restore , you need to do it from recovery.  And therefore need Lion or newer.   Did I miss something?

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 29, 2016 3:19 AM in response to my ginger
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    Feb 29, 2016 3:19 AM in response to my ginger

    I did read your link. Once Apple introduces something new the old way seems to be dead to them. Take AHT for instance, they'll tell you in order to run it you just restart while holding the D key, what about all of us with older computers and install discs? Same with recovery, it's like discs never existed.

    Did you read the link I posted?

    To restore your entire system, you need a Recovery HD (Lion 10.7.x or later) or Install Disc:


  • by my ginger,

    my ginger my ginger Feb 29, 2016 10:41 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 29, 2016 10:41 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    OK. I now redd the full article.  Can use time machine backup with the install disk. Right? Can use time machine backup if the drive is still a bootable volume. Right? Then my link was misleading, as it did not give those options.

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Feb 29, 2016 3:03 PM in response to my ginger
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    Feb 29, 2016 3:03 PM in response to my ginger

    Not your fault though. Once Apple used to keep old kb articles around for users with older Macs but lately I've not been able to find many of them.

  • by woopit2013,

    woopit2013 woopit2013 Feb 29, 2016 7:07 PM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Feb 29, 2016 7:07 PM in response to Mike Sombrio

    First... Mike... thanks for your reply. I usually receive an email when someone responds to a post- -I didnt this time. As far as the System folder being backed up- -I didnt knowing select not to back up system folders and I don't think that was the case unless it's set on that for default- -which it doesnt seem to be. I read the link you posted- -but it doesnt address a kernel panic like what I incurred when trying to reboot. So frustrating bc I dilligently did my back ups and kept a bunch in case one or two were bad and none of them work. Thanks for trying to help. Much appreciated.

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Mar 1, 2016 3:15 AM in response to woopit2013
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    Mar 1, 2016 3:15 AM in response to woopit2013

    Can you boot into Safe mode? Try safe mode if your Mac doesn't finish starting up - Apple Support

    If so can you copy and post a kernel panic log Mac OS X: How to log a kernel panic - Apple Support

    You stated that you were running 10.6.8 previously, why aren't you reinstalling Snow Leopard?

  • by my ginger,

    my ginger my ginger Mar 1, 2016 1:16 PM in response to woopit2013
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    Mar 1, 2016 1:16 PM in response to woopit2013

    You say you are running 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. Do you have the 10.6.3 install disk?  If you do you can erase and reinstall, then in the installer under utilities use time machine to put back you files.

  • by woopit2013,

    woopit2013 woopit2013 Mar 1, 2016 5:23 PM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Mar 1, 2016 5:23 PM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Hey Mike- - Currently I am working off my old system which I re-installed from the discs that came with my laptop- -System 10.5.8. So it's not like my computer won't boot up at all. The issue is I was not able to restore my latest and greatest system- -10.6.8 - -from my Time Machine back ups. I dont have the 10.6 discs- -I just have my time machine back ups.I cant give the exact message of the kenrel panic bc there is nothing in the logs bc I re-installed.

     

    What I was trying to understand is whether or not one is supposed to be able to restore their system with their lastest back-up, if the latest back-up has a system newer than the original. It appears from the answers that I should be able to do so- -so I dont know why it doesnt work. But, Ive seen other posts explaining the same issue.

     

    I tried it 3 times and got the same black screen saying power down, then hit power again to restart your computer. It is preceded by a bunch of code that looks something like what I pasted below from another post w/similar issue. I couldn't copy mine bc I cant do anything when the screen is black like that. Then at the end of all that it says- -Mac OS version: Not yet set

     

    panic(cpu 0 caller 0x001A8CEC): Kernel trap at 0x00000000, type 14=page fault, registers:

    CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000000, CR3: 0x01af9000, CR4: 0x00000660

    EAX: 0x00000001, EBX: 0x001363b6, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x00000598

    CR2: 0x00000000, EBP: 0x1bfabf38, ESI: 0x035ef800, EDI: 0x00000001

    EFL: 0x00010002, EIP: 0x00000000, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00000010

    Error code: 0x00000010

     

    Debugger called: <panic>

    Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)

    0x1bfabd28 : 0x12b0fa (0x459234 0x1bfabd5c 0x1333243 0x0)

    0x1bfabd78 : 0x1a8cec (0x4627a0 0x0 0xe 0x461f50)

    0x1bfabe58 : 0x19eed5 (0x1bfabe70 0x216 0x1bfabf38 0x0)

    0x1bfabe68 : 0x0 (0xe 0x48 0x1bed0010 0x10)

    0x1bfabf38 : 0x1be86d73 (0x3421c00 0x0 0x34816b0 0x3481a78)

    0x1bfabf58 : 0x1be8b30b (0x34816b0 0xefb7c48 0x0 0x6ece)

    0x1bfabfc8 : 0x19eccc (0x0 0x0 0x1a20b5 0x3481a78)

    Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0

     

    Mac OS version:

    Not yet set

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Mar 1, 2016 6:33 PM in response to woopit2013
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    Mar 1, 2016 6:33 PM in response to woopit2013

    Not sure how you were running Snow Leopard without an install disc but whatever.....you NEED a Snow Leopard disc, get it here http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

    I think once you have that and can properly install SL you'll be able to restore and get up and running.

  • by woopit2013,

    woopit2013 woopit2013 Mar 1, 2016 6:49 PM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Mar 1, 2016 6:49 PM in response to Mike Sombrio

    I had the Snow Leopard discs- -I dont have them anymore. Thought I could rely on the back-ups. Thanks again for trying to help.

  • by woopit2013,

    woopit2013 woopit2013 Mar 5, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Mike Sombrio
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    Mar 5, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Mike- - If youre still following this post- - I'm trying to understand where I went wrong w/the restore if I am supposed to be able to restore my entire system to the exact condition it was in at the time of any Time Machine backup, even if it's a different version of OSX unless System folders were excluded.

     

    In my case, system folders were not excluded. I was just trying to restore the current system 10.6.8 with a previous back up of 10.6.8. The only difference being, I had other/older programs, emails, documents, etc... on the previous system. But, the system version is still the same. I was just going back to see if something I had recently loaded was giving me the beachball problem. In hindsight, I guess I just should have deleted apps- -but then its difficult to know where all the prefs, plug-ins and plists reside.

     

    I would just like to know what to expect w/future restores bc now I'm gun shy about it. Thanks for your help.

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