How do I remove a patch completely?

Thanks, but that doesn't seem to work. I've tried selecting "no send" in the SEND field (which is actually check marked) but it keeps coming up "Send" and then sending it.

As for the BUS field, if I select anything other than "bus 8" (which Logic created) I get no sound.

If I close the program and don't save anything it will open with the track unaffected. But if I again apply a patch, it will never go away (or at least part of it never goes away).

Thanks again, This makes me realize the problem was caused by me when I deleting some of the control strips created on the mix panel - the ones that control the output from the effects sends from the different elements of the patches.

I get the feeling now that it's supposed to work in a straightforward way and I just messed things up by experimenting.

I'll create a new test track and I suspect it will work fine. Thanks again.

Thanks. I created a new test document. Well, I see this still does not work at all. "Enable patch merging" is not checked. Here is what happnes:

I record a track and it's called "Audio 1" Well, it sounds pretty good.

I go to the library and add a patch - because I think the concept of patches is pretty cool. Logic immediately RENAMES my track "aux 1" and and assigns the input "bus 1."

I click on the SETTING field and select "reset strip." The name of the patch disappears - but I'm still on "bus 1." And the SOUND of the patch is still there. I go to the mix window and I see it's added a couple of channels, presumably from the effects sends from the former patch. But none of them say BUS 1 (they say bus 3 and bus 4 - what?) They seem to control nothing.

If I select "no input" instead of "bus 1" I get NO SOUND.

So I'm wondering how is this supposed to work?

Thanks, Nigel. I hear what you're saying and I might do that - but it annoys me that they don't seem to work correctly. Why are they in there if they can't be used? In various demos I see people using them with no issues.

Maybe I'll skip the patches for now. After all, I never had them before.

Thanks, but I don't believe they all work correctly. I've done some more experimenting, and here's the situation:

When I select most of the patches and then immediately select "reset channel strip" it DOES remove the patch as it is supposed to do - most of the time. But when I select a few of the patches and then immediately tell it to reset the strip it works differently. It renames my "audio 1" track as "aux 1" and applies an effect that can't be removed or controlled.

I tried a lot of patches, and only found a few that seem to have this problem - but unfortunately those were among the first few I ever tried. (Acoustic guitar > thin strum> does not work here).

I suppose I could be doing something that's causing the problem (usually this is the case,ha), but all I'm doing here is creating a new file and then one audio track for test purposes and then selecting patches. That's it. So I see no reason any patch should behave so differently from all the others.

I doubt I'll even use many of these patches, but I wanted to know what was going on. At this point, I'm going to say that certain patches probably cause problems with this version of the program on this 7-year old computer.

Thanks, Nigel, for your responses.

UNBELEIVEABLE! Thanks so much! I have been trying to figure this out for quite a while... I guess I shouldn't have skipped the "stacked tracks" section, ha. I'm actually glad to see the program works because I do like the interface and all the various features that seem to work fine.

But here's the thing, Nigel... Okay, "reset channel strip" is not what I thought it was - but I still see no way to "reset the patch." Once a patch is on there, I see no basic button or action menu that will CLEAR IT. Am I missing some hugely obvious thing?

Joe

Nigel, I can't thank you enough. How did you figure that out? You must be a smart guy. I do wonder what the designers were thinking. Why not just put a "clear patch" button in there?

Thanks for he other info! 'm sure it will come in handy. I like the feel of Logic. but I can see I need to study it a lot more.

Thanks again!

Joe