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Q: Airport Extreme and Cox Internet IPv6 Problem

This is a notification to others as well as a question:

 

I have Cox Cable High Speed Internet at several locations using an Airport Extreme 3GB connected as a router to the Cox cable modem.

 

For more than a week we would regularly find in the morning that the outside connection to the internet DNS servers were lost.  We called Cox several times, and they performed the usual reset of router and modem and things seem to work for a while.  But the next day gone again.

 

They came out and replaced the hookups, I I had to buy a new cable modem and replaced a digital switch.  Each time things seemed to work for a while.

 

I thought about replacing the Airport Extreme (as I read others had done in a similar situation to no avail).

 

After much frustration, I started to search for Airport Extreme and DNS and found similar tales.

 

After several unproductive calls with Cox Internet first tier support, I finally reached a tier who acknowledged that Cox was rolling out IPv6 and was having a problem with Airport Extreme Routers.  They said Apple was working on it and gave me a number to call at apple router support.  Unfortunalely the number they gave was no longer valid.


I persisted and eventually got to Apple support and indeed they knew of the problem and said Cox was working on it.. But there was a temporary fix - and that was to turn off iPv6 on the airport extreme (more precisely (internet > Internet Options > Configure Ipv6 : Link-Local Only).

 

For now this seemed to stop the overnight drop that seems to happen between 12:00 AM and 2:00 AM.  From experience I dont think its really an IPV6 compaibility issue, but how the router responds to some sort of reset signal/test signal that the service does in the early morning.

 

So the question is - does anybody know for sure whats going on or who is really working on this.  From my perspective both camps think its the other's problem.  BTW - Ive read about others with Non Apple routers chasing something similar.

Posted on Mar 2, 2016 9:07 PM

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  • by Applexometa,

    Applexometa Applexometa Jun 5, 2016 12:19 AM in response to askin6305B
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    Jun 5, 2016 12:19 AM in response to askin6305B

    Hi, there are no PM's on the Apple forum but how would one be able to reach you? Thank you

  • by OCRamón,

    OCRamón OCRamón Jun 5, 2016 12:40 AM in response to OCRamón
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    Jun 5, 2016 12:40 AM in response to OCRamón

    Another ipv6 failure at 0030 PDT Sunday, roughly 6 hours after the previous one.  Same symptoms, although ipv4 browsing still works, but is slow from both wired and wifi.

  • by YatBob,

    YatBob YatBob Jun 5, 2016 5:19 AM in response to OCRamón
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    Jun 5, 2016 5:19 AM in response to OCRamón

    I am having the same results as you, fail test, reset AE pass test, several hours later fail test. The only difference is where you are getting the message

    Our tests show that you will have a broken or misconfigured IPv6 setup, and this will cause problems as web sites enable IPv6.

    I am getting the message

    Good news! Your current configuration will continue to work as web sites enable IPv6.

  • by Tom380,

    Tom380 Tom380 Jun 5, 2016 6:21 AM in response to askin6305B
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    Jun 5, 2016 6:21 AM in response to askin6305B

    Since 8 pm PDT last night have intermittently lost the IPv6 connection. Location is Orange County CA.  IPv4 connection continues to work with normal internet speeds.  Re-setting the cable modem temporarily restores the IPv6 connection, however, it is lost within minutes.  Problem continues this morning.

  • by sunjon,

    sunjon sunjon Jun 5, 2016 7:14 AM in response to Tom380
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    Jun 5, 2016 7:14 AM in response to Tom380

    Tom380, I'm curious, if you don't reset the modem, does it auto-correct, and restore IPv6?

  • by starhopper,

    starhopper starhopper Jun 5, 2016 7:19 AM in response to GABarber
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    Jun 5, 2016 7:19 AM in response to GABarber

    Ever since Cox implemented their Ipv6 protocol in Mid-December 2015, I have been unable to use my Apple Airport Extreme in "Automatic Ipv6" configuration mode. I hade to use "Local-link" only and even then I had to restart the AAE every 3 days or so.

     

    When the 7.7.7 update came out last month, I immediately updated my AAE and I kept the "local-link" only option.  I didn't have any loss of internet signal for a week, so I decided to take a shot and change to "Automatic Ipv6" configuration.  That was a WEEK ago and I have not had to restart the AAE.

     

    So, for me at least, it seems the 7.7.7 upgrade did the trick.

  • by Gino_Cerullo,

    Gino_Cerullo Gino_Cerullo Jun 5, 2016 7:21 AM in response to starhopper
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    Jun 5, 2016 7:21 AM in response to starhopper

    starhopper, if you run the IPv6 test at IPv6 test - IPv6/4 connectivity and speed test what is your score?

  • by Gino_Cerullo,

    Gino_Cerullo Gino_Cerullo Jun 5, 2016 7:33 AM in response to sunjon
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    Jun 5, 2016 7:33 AM in response to sunjon

    For those of you who are losing IPv6 connectivity, before restarting your router or modem to restore service can you run a couple of tests using the Terminal app and post up the result. This may also help the Cox engineer who is following this thread better understand what is going on.

     

    ping test

     

    Command is as follows:

    ping6 -c 10 ipv6.google.com

     

    A normal result will look like this.

     

    PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:fea8:20e0:12:e1cd:b0c7:ec95:d40b --> 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=0 hlim=56 time=16.871 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=1 hlim=56 time=21.798 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=2 hlim=56 time=16.715 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=3 hlim=56 time=15.843 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=4 hlim=56 time=13.584 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=5 hlim=56 time=19.744 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=6 hlim=56 time=28.816 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=7 hlim=56 time=19.221 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=8 hlim=56 time=26.236 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e, icmp_seq=9 hlim=56 time=24.415 ms

     

    --- ipv6.l.google.com ping6 statistics ---

    10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

    round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 13.584/20.324/28.816/4.669 ms

     

    Traceroute test

     

    Command is as follows:

    traceroute6 ipv6.google.com

     

    A normal result will look like this.

     

    traceroute6 to ipv6.l.google.com (2607:f8b0:400b:80b::200e) from 2607:fea8:20e0:12:e1cd:b0c7:ec95:d40b, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets

    1  2607:fea8:20e0:12:3612:98ff:fe02:51c5  1.407 ms  1.453 ms  1.282 ms

    2  2607:f798:804:123::1  19.180 ms  20.735 ms  13.354 ms

    3  2607:f798:10:205c::661:8508:9213  27.415 ms  61.054 ms  23.688 ms

    4  * * *

    5  2607:f798:10:295::2  36.526 ms  31.048 ms  28.827 ms

    6  2001:4860:1:1::32c:0:8  32.697 ms  23.901 ms  31.619 ms

    7  2001:4860::1:0:713a  23.255 ms  22.707 ms  19.624 ms

    8  2001:4860:0:1::71d  27.503 ms  26.101 ms  17.143 ms

    9  yyz08s14-in-x0e.1e100.net  28.774 ms  18.186 ms  18.167 ms

  • by starhopper,

    starhopper starhopper Jun 5, 2016 7:58 AM in response to Gino_Cerullo
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    Jun 5, 2016 7:58 AM in response to Gino_Cerullo

    My score is 12/20.  "Type" of ipv6 server is "Toredo" if that means anything to you.

  • by Gino_Cerullo,

    Gino_Cerullo Gino_Cerullo Jun 5, 2016 8:00 AM in response to starhopper
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    Jun 5, 2016 8:00 AM in response to starhopper

    starhopper, which tests did it fail? Or, run the simpler tests from this site Test your IPv6 and copy/paste the result.

  • by YatBob,

    YatBob YatBob Jun 5, 2016 8:09 AM in response to Gino_Cerullo
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    Jun 5, 2016 8:09 AM in response to Gino_Cerullo

    I am one that keeps passing and failing the ipv6 test

     

    here are my results

     

    Last login: Sat Jun  4 07:49:02 on ttys000

    Roberts-iMac:~ Bob$

    Roberts-iMac:~ Bob$ ping6 -c 10 ipv6.google.com

    PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2600:8807:5000:be:388a:de87:a412:2678 --> 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=0 hlim=55 time=21.738 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=1 hlim=55 time=22.444 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=2 hlim=55 time=21.526 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=3 hlim=55 time=23.522 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=4 hlim=55 time=20.965 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=5 hlim=55 time=24.457 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=6 hlim=55 time=21.823 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=7 hlim=55 time=22.730 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=8 hlim=55 time=23.815 ms

    16 bytes from 2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e, icmp_seq=9 hlim=55 time=20.573 ms

     

    --- ipv6.l.google.com ping6 statistics ---

    10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

    round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 20.573/22.359/24.457/1.205 ms

    Roberts-iMac:~ Bob$ traceroute6 ipv6.google.com

    traceroute6 to ipv6.l.google.com (2607:f8b0:4000:803::200e) from 2600:8807:5000:be:388a:de87:a412:2678, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets

    1  2600:8807:5000:be:d203:4bff:fed1:f088  0.596 ms  0.368 ms  1.497 ms

    2  2600:8807:7f04::1  7.985 ms  8.613 ms  9.158 ms

    3  2001:578:1800:4::104:18  9.209 ms  10.040 ms  9.251 ms

    4  2001:578:1800:4::1:20  9.195 ms  8.776 ms  10.530 ms

    5  2001:578:1::172:17:248:183  20.921 ms  20.344 ms  19.879 ms

    6  2001:4860:1:1::58f5:0:21  21.079 ms  24.704 ms  22.214 ms

    7  2001:4860:0:e02::1  22.430 ms

        2001:4860:0:e03::1  21.271 ms  24.018 ms

    8  2001:4860:0:1::501  27.464 ms  21.509 ms

        2001:4860:0:1::427  22.275 ms

    9  dfw25s13-in-x0e.1e100.net  21.156 ms  22.660 ms  21.140 ms

    Roberts-iMac:~ Bob$

     

    After running the txt in terminal and without resetting anything I now pass the ipv6 test

  • by Gino_Cerullo,

    Gino_Cerullo Gino_Cerullo Jun 5, 2016 8:11 AM in response to YatBob
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    Jun 5, 2016 8:11 AM in response to YatBob

    Yatbob, thank you very much. Are you also currently failing the IPv6 test on the test sites?

     

    IPv6 test - IPv6/4 connectivity and speed test

    Test your IPv6.

  • by Gino_Cerullo,

    Gino_Cerullo Gino_Cerullo Jun 5, 2016 8:13 AM in response to YatBob
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    Jun 5, 2016 8:13 AM in response to YatBob

    Sorry YatBob, missed your note at the bottom of your post.

  • by Tom380,

    Tom380 Tom380 Jun 5, 2016 8:30 AM in response to sunjon
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    Jun 5, 2016 8:30 AM in response to sunjon

    If I do not reset the modem, it does not appear to auto reset and restore the IPv6 connection.  It does fallback to IPv4 automatically and internet speeds are normal.

  • by starhopper,

    starhopper starhopper Jun 5, 2016 8:35 AM in response to Gino_Cerullo
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    Jun 5, 2016 8:35 AM in response to Gino_Cerullo

    It didn't fail ANY of the tests

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