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Q: Windows suggests scan/fix (recommended) iPod nano 6?

Ordinarily for a non Apple device connected to my machine I would proceed with the scan/fix. However, I'm suspicious that Windows can scan Apple's nano OS and properly fix if a problem does exist?

iPod nano, Windows 7

Posted on Mar 6, 2016 6:55 AM

by Kenichi Watanabe,Solvedanswer
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Don't worry about the Previous Libraries folder.  iTunes creates those files as backups, when you do a major iTunes application upgrade, in case there is a problem, and you need to go back to the previous version of iTunes.

 

The one that is at C:\Users\Mark\Music\iTunes\iTunes Library.itl is the default location for your iTunes library database file.  That's the important file.  That IS your iTunes library.  It hold information about where all of your media files are located, and supporting data such as playlists, date added, ratings, play count, etc.  The other files you listed are supporting files.  Unless you intentionally set iTunes to use a different iTunes library, that iTunes Library.itl file is your active iTunes library.  Check its last modified date, and it should be recently modified (if you ran iTunes recently).

 

The iTunes folder (in your user account Music folder) is where your iTunes data is normally kept.  But there are ways to set iTunes to store its data elsewhere.

 

Open iTunes preferences Advanced pane.  There is a location setting for iTunes Media folder.  By default, that points to an iTunes Media folder that is in your iTunes folder.  In your case, something like

 

C:\Users\Mark\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media

 

Does it?  There are also TWO checkboxes there for Keep iTunes Media Folder Organized AND Copy files to iTune Media folder when adding to library.  Are those settings currently checked or not checked?

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  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe Mar 8, 2016 2:56 PM in response to Markg2
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    Mar 8, 2016 2:56 PM in response to Markg2

    Are you describing actions taken on your iPod?  Are you describing the iPod's click wheel, with the "left arrow" being the Previous button?  If so, the Previous button is used to skip to the previous song on the list, not to go to the previous screen.  IF you are on the first song (item) on the list, then pressing the Previous button cannot go to the previous song (item), so it may go back to the Playlists screen.

     

    But, if you have the Repeat setting set to All, then your list is continuous.  The current list is repeated when you get to the end (or beginning).  That means if you press the Previous button on the first item of the list, it "cycles" through the list.  Go to your iPod's onboard Settings screen.  Look at the Repeat setting.  It is probably set to All.  Set it to Off.  Try what you were doing before with the Previous button.

     

    NOTE:  The proper way to go back to the last screen on the iPod is to press the Menu button (just once), not the Previous button multiple times.  Try using the Menu button go back to last screen, not the Previous button.  The Center button moves your forward through screens, the Menu button moves you backward through the screens.

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    Markg2 Markg2 Mar 9, 2016 4:50 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    Mar 9, 2016 4:50 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Per 'Advanced': C:\Users\Mark\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Podcasts

     

    However, my music folders are to be found in: C:\OneDrive\My Sounds\iPod Nano Music. I just confirmed that they are not duplicated on the drive. At one time I had used the Advanced/Change button to tell iTunes where my music was to be found. I backup the music sub-directories every night as a function of the root C:\OneDrive\...

     

    So that's why I'm thinking anything else that's under iTunes apart from the *.itl file would be brought back on sync and there's no other reason to backup C:\Users\Mark\Music\iTunes? I think your link presupposes that one's music files are under iTunes...? Am I incorrect?

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    Markg2 Markg2 Mar 9, 2016 5:07 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    Mar 9, 2016 5:07 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Okay, you've lost me here.

     

    My nano has no click wheel--2 volume buttons and a power/sleep button.

     

    If I click on the playlist, then on a tape there's this in terms of arrows: <<|    >   >>|. After whichever of the 4 tapes under the playlist has finished I've always previously tapped the left << however many times it takes to move back up through the tapes until I'm back at the playlist again and then swipe left until I'm back at the home icon menu. However, now when I tap the << from a finished tape instead of eventually getting back to the playlist I just loop around the 4 tapes under the playlist.

     

    It's possible that I may have mistakenly turned some looping feature on but those controls only appear to be found swiping right when in a particular tape not the playlist. I've never used the 2 looping icons found when swiping right on a tune since I can't figure out when they're on or off + have never had a need for them. But again, I thought they only impact a particular tune/tape not the entire group under a playlist and for my 4 tapes to keep cycling around each other the looping function would have to act on the entire playlist? You can see that I'm unclear on this aspect.

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe Mar 9, 2016 5:18 AM in response to Markg2
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    Mar 9, 2016 5:18 AM in response to Markg2

    What?  Your iTunes Media folder location in iTunes preferences Advanced pane points to the Podcasts folder.  Why does it point there?  I can understand if your song files are not stored in the default location (the Music/iTunes Media folder), but how did the iTunes Media location get set to point to the Podcasts folder?

     

    I think you should backup the entire iTunes folder.  If you import songs from music CDs or download songs from the iTunes Store, or download other type of media (from the iTunes Store) such as videos and podcasts, those files are stored in the designated iTunes Media folder (the one designated in iTunes preferences Advanced pane).  In your case, they go into the Podcasts folder, apparently.  Look in that Podcast folder, and you may find more than you expect.

     

    Also, in my previous post, I asked

    There are also TWO checkboxes there for Keep iTunes Media Folder Organized AND Copy files to iTune Media folder when adding to library.  Are those settings currently checked or not checked?

    That has an effect on where and how iTunes media files are stored.  What's the current setup?

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe Mar 9, 2016 5:39 AM in response to Markg2
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    Mar 9, 2016 5:39 AM in response to Markg2

    I can't read your mind, so I was guessing what you were trying to describe in your previous post.  I don't have your iPod nano model (mine has a click wheel interface).  But the leftward "arrow" is still the Previous Song button.  There should be a (single tap) way to return to the Playlist screen without tapping Previous multiple times.  What if your song list had 100 songs, and you were on song #100.  Do you tap Previous 101 times to get back to the Playlist screen? 

     

    The reason it does not work like it did before is probably because you tapped the Repeat setting by mistake, so that it is currently set to Repeat All (repeat current list).  That means the current list is continuous and has no beginning or end.  Tapping Previous a bunch of times just cycles (backward) through the list forever. 

     

    The Repeat button is on the Now Playing screen, and it looks like two arrows in a loop.  I think it is blue when turned on.  Go here

     

    https://www.apple.com/support/ipodnano/

     

    Click on Manuals, find the user guide for your iPod nano, and look at the section on playback controls.  The "strangeness" you described is the iPod working as designed, based on its current settings.

  • by Markg2,

    Markg2 Markg2 Mar 9, 2016 5:52 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    Mar 9, 2016 5:52 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    As for why the pointer is to Podcasts I have no idea other than I sync updated podcasts every morning.

     

    Neither are checked. Since I keep my music separate I could see 'keep iTunes Media Folder Organized' this option as only screwing up what I was doing. As for 'Copy files to iTune Media folder when adding to library', since I keep my music in a different location, I didn't want duplicates created on the drive.

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    Markg2 Markg2 Mar 9, 2016 5:57 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    Mar 9, 2016 5:57 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Okay, thanks on explaining the looping thing. I'm sure that's the 'problem'. I had searched the manual but used 'buttons' as the descriptor instead of controls. I'll do again and resolve.

     

    As for playlists with lots of tunes...I would simply click pause then swipe out back home. For some reason I've determined that doing otherwise is the way to deal with the meditation playlists ;-). Once I get the control thing figured out I'll be doing the same going forward for all playlists.

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe Mar 9, 2016 2:01 PM in response to Markg2
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    Mar 9, 2016 2:01 PM in response to Markg2

    It's not technically a problem that the designated iTunes Media folder is a folder called "Podcasts."  The iTunes Media folder can be named anything and located at any desired location.  But iTunes is not just putting podcasts in that folder.  I think you will find, if you look in that Podcasts folder, that there are subfolders for other iTunes media types, including Music, TV Shows, Movies, Podcasts, Audiobooks, etc. if you have ever downloaded those media types from the iTunes Store.

     

    It makes sense that Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to library is not checked, since you intentionally want song files that you manually add to iTunes library to be stored at a different location.  The other setting for Keep iTunes Media folder organized only applies to items that are in the designated iTunes Media folder (which in your case is called Podcasts); it does not matter if that setting is checked or not checked, for the song files stored at the "OneDrive" location.

     

    NOTE:  Media files that iTunes adds automatically, such as downloads from iTunes Store, are stored in the designated iTune Media folder, organized into subfolders by media type, artist, and album.

  • by Markg2,

    Markg2 Markg2 Mar 10, 2016 5:28 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    Mar 10, 2016 5:28 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Regarding the meditation playlist--apparently I had inadvertently clicked the playlist loop--it was blue. I tapped it once and a small 1 subscript appeared(?), then tapped again and the loop icon turned white and all is now well. Thanks.

     

    One long standing question--

     

    When finished listening to music on a playlist I see no way of telling the device I'm done other than pausing the tune and swiping left to home. Since the ear buds are still attached when I put the device back in my pocket I have to assume the device still thinks it's playing that tune but that it is just paused. Is there a proper way to 'stop' other than holding down the sleep button till the device shuts down then starting again?

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    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe Mar 12, 2016 5:34 AM in response to Markg2
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    Mar 12, 2016 5:34 AM in response to Markg2

    FYI - When you see that small "1" on the Repeat setting button, it is set to Repeat One.  This setting repeats the current song continuously.

     

    If you pause the song, the iPod just goes into sleep mode after a short period of inactivity.  You don't need to take any other action to indicate you have stopped using the iPod.  When you later resume using the iPod, it should resume where you previously stopped.

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