iPhone backup and passwords

Until recently I thought that backing up an iPhone to the computer via USB/ iTunes/ encryption was the only way to get passwords and other confidential data synced between the phone and my Mac.


Isn't this true?


I'm asking because I saw a piece on a Mac-oriented web site extolling the virtues of back up via iCloud, which I don't do because I want to have the aforementioned data on my phone.


Is this the case or not? That turning on iCloud sync disabled encryption and hence disables syncing Keychain data?


[I'm using a new iPhone 6+ and El Capitan].

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Posted on Mar 7, 2016 7:17 AM

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Mar 7, 2016 8:09 AM in response to Demo

Thanks for that link. It would be a lot simpler if Apple would simply say that either choice has the same result: both are encrypted.


I guess this is a bit of a rant but it's frustrating:


If you click "iCloud", for instance, you read that 'the most important data' copies to iPhone. What does that even mean? Does it mean that everything on your phone with the exception of music and apps are copied to iCloud? Who decides what's 'most important'? Does it mean only recent stuff? What about love letters to my wife? Are they important? And not a word about encryption (which is covered in the link you provided but ought to be here).


If you click "This Computer", you read that a "full backup" is made on your Mac. Sounds good! But this isn't true either, not in the sense that anybody understands 'backup'. And since the phrase doesn't appear when you choose iCloud, what is included in this 'Full Backup' that's not in the iCloud option?


Argh.


Yea, I know what it means. I think. It means I can choose either one, depending on what's most convenient for me. Backups are encrypted either way. Why not just say so?


/rant


(oh: and to complicate things further, a recent restoration to a new iPhone neglected to retain screen arrangements or wallpaper choices. Things I can setup myself, but when this happens, people wonder what else was left behind.).

Mar 7, 2016 9:47 AM in response to Demo

Thanks. It does show a bit more, but as you say not a word about encryption. and with all of the energy around Apple regarding iPhone safety you'd think this would be available info.


I draw one more conclusion:

THERE IS NO WAY TO FULLY BACKUP AN IPHONE.


Not in the sense that anybody understands backup, which means a timestamped copy of your iPhone with no exceptions. EVERYthing, including Apple Pay, and including where your icons are and your wallpaper and every other single thing. Touch ID. And what about the dozens of MP3 audio books on my iPhone? What about gigabytes of data on my phone that's used by Filemaker?


Anybody remember the days when Finder wouldn't copy those 400k disks? And then somebody invented a bit-by-bit method that copied everything including the copy protection? The situation with the iPhone seems similar, in some ways (and different).


I can't remember ever being this ****** off at Apple. Since 1984. Then add the confusing mess that is Photo Stream and iCloud and Photos. What a mess.


(and apologies to everyone for the ranting).

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