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Q: Watch Apple should have is measuring blood pressure?

The most important function that the watch Apple should have is measuring blood pressure.
All people who do physical activity or do not need this important function.
It has no sense a watch that takes care or that has the function to help health
without this important mechanism .

Measurement of cardiac measurement is more important to the time of registration or
or even silly messages between people who have Apple Watch .

If it is to have a health function, which will complete.

Thank you

 

Ulisses

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Posted on Mar 14, 2016 10:22 AM

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  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Mar 14, 2016 12:06 PM in response to Uli Lyra
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    Mar 14, 2016 12:06 PM in response to Uli Lyra

    If there was a better way to measure blood pressure the medical community would have adopted it. If you go to a hospital or a doctor's office they will still check your blood pressure with a cuff because there is no other way to do it. What you are asking for is impossible with current technology.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Mar 14, 2016 1:20 PM in response to Jonathan UK
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    Mar 14, 2016 1:20 PM in response to Jonathan UK

    Jonathan UK wrote:

     

    You're welcome!

     

    (Unfortunately, "anything" otherwise seems to more clearly imply "anything").

    I cannot control what you inferred.

  • by deggie,Helpful

    deggie deggie Mar 14, 2016 5:39 PM in response to Uli Lyra
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    Mar 14, 2016 5:39 PM in response to Uli Lyra

    While Apple engineers are good they cannot invent ways to get around physics and biology. The implantable sensor is a newer means of measuring blood pressure and would work with the Watch using Bluetooth, I don't know of any way to install a cuff without it being cumbersome. There are 3rd party sources of BP devices that can communicate with the Watch.

     

    Anyone who says it is "super simple" to get approval for ANYTHING from the FDA has obviously never dealt with the FDA. Mr. Cook saying he doesn't mind something adjacent being approved (such as a small blood pressure cuff) is far different than wanting the Watch certified but I still would be Apple won't come out with such a device. If they do they won't come out with any more after struggling with the FDA (I believe Meg is correct in her statement). Given the swings of measuring heart rate and calories expended the current Watch has it isn't even close to what it would take to get it certified as a health device by the FDA. And I don't think Mr. Cook has the patience to wait 3 years or more between device models.

  • by Uli Lyra,

    Uli Lyra Uli Lyra Mar 14, 2016 5:40 PM in response to deggie
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    Mar 14, 2016 5:40 PM in response to deggie

    The Apple Watch was developed by more than three years. That time would pass to the FDA license. The Apple already made ​​things more complex than this simple function. Measurement of Blood Pressure is simple to do.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Mar 14, 2016 5:42 PM in response to Uli Lyra
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    Mar 14, 2016 5:42 PM in response to Uli Lyra

    Please explain how it would be "simple to do." There are millions of doctors and nurses around the world who would be forever grateful to you. None of them have figured out a simple way to do it.

  • by Uli Lyra,

    Uli Lyra Uli Lyra Mar 14, 2016 5:58 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Mar 14, 2016 5:58 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    I do not work for Apple. But a blood pressure measurement using Apple Watch can be done with today's technology. small Despositivos that measure the pressure pulses are common. A watch could have a close to the pulse meter technology. I do not think hard. Just put together a team to research and develop this resource. Is not difficult. There is already other research more modern things being done . If I worked in this area, certainly I would have done it for Apple.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Mar 14, 2016 6:11 PM in response to Uli Lyra
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    Mar 14, 2016 6:11 PM in response to Uli Lyra

    As I said, no one in the medical community has found a reliable non-invasive way to accurately measure blood pressure. If you actually know of a way please post it; don't just wave your hands in the air and say "Apple can do it". People who need it every day haven't found a way.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Mar 14, 2016 6:22 PM in response to Uli Lyra
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    Mar 14, 2016 6:22 PM in response to Uli Lyra

    Yes, there are small devices that measure the pulse (like the Apple Watch) and there are small pulse/oxygen meters which have only been available in the last few years. Those technologies are easy to do with sensors. Blood pressure readings involve...well, pressure. That is much harder to do as you need a device that applies consistent pressure and then a sensor to read it. I guess you could design it as the watch band as a cuff (the band would have to be about 6 times wider than it is now to work) but I'm not sure there would be a market for that. I certainly wouldn't buy it.

     

    If it is ever going to happen I would look to Fitbit being the ones to do it. But they aren't even trying.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Mar 15, 2016 6:21 AM in response to deggie
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    Mar 15, 2016 6:21 AM in response to deggie

    I've seen blood pressure cuffs designed to be worn on the wrist but they were only for home use. They are simply not accurate enough for medical use as I understand it.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Mar 15, 2016 7:14 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Mar 15, 2016 7:14 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    I've seen blood pressure cuffs designed to be worn on the wrist but they were only for home use. They are simply not accurate enough for medical use as I understand it.

     

    They are also very uncomfortable for long term wear, and they would have to go where you wear your watch. There are several ways of measuring blood pressure, but all of them except an implantable arterial monitor (which requires a surgical procedure to install) measure BP by applying pressure to an artery until blood flow stops, then relaxing pressure gradually until it starts again and noting the pressure where this happens. Pressure is usually measured in the upper arm, which is the most accurate, but it can also be on a leg or wrist or even on the carotid artery in the neck. A skilled and experienced medical professional or EMT can get an approximate blood pressure by feeling the wrist or carotid artery. This is only useful for pressure that is too low by a large margin.

     

    Some implantable monitors support Bluetooth, which means that in theory at least they could work with an iPhone or  Watch. But I doubt that many people would want to go to the trouble and expense for the surgery required. And there is some risk, as anything implanted in an artery can cause blood clots.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Mar 15, 2016 7:22 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Mar 15, 2016 7:22 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    Lawrence Finch wrote:

     

     

    Some implantable monitors support Bluetooth, which means that in theory at least they could work with an iPhone or  Watch. But I doubt that many people would want to go to the trouble and expense for the surgery required. And there is some risk, as anything implanted in an artery can cause blood clots.

    I'm all for wearables. I'm not ready for implantables myself. The cat has a microchip but that's as far as I'm willing to go at present.

  • by Rudegar,

    Rudegar Rudegar Mar 15, 2016 8:19 AM in response to Uli Lyra
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    Mar 15, 2016 8:19 AM in response to Uli Lyra

    I don't know not an expert but once messed around with a blood pressure measurement thingy

    and it was big and worked by tightening around my arm putting pressure on it, not sure how easy that could be done with a normal watch, but of cause there could for all i know be better / easier ways to measure it...

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