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Q: Finder windows position and settings no longer stored

Since the update to 10.11.4, the Finder not only has forgotten what position and display options I had set before the update, it also no longer stores them: when I reboot or just restart the Finder, all the adjustments I made a gone again.

 

I already tried deleting the .DS_Store files and the Finder preferences, but to no avail. I also couldn't find any good tips on the web, but won't rule out I missed a good solution. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), OS X El Capitan (10.11.4), null

Posted on Mar 24, 2016 8:48 AM

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  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 24, 2016 12:38 PM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 24, 2016 12:38 PM in response to DrDeath

    Please read this whole message before doing anything.

    This procedure is a diagnostic test. It’s unlikely to solve your problem. Don’t be disappointed when you find that nothing has changed after you complete it.

    The purpose of the test is to determine whether the problem is caused by third-party software that loads automatically at startup or login, by a peripheral device, by a font conflict, or by corruption of the file system or of certain system caches.

    Disconnect all wired peripherals except those needed for the test, and remove all aftermarket expansion cards, if applicable. Start up in safe mode and log in to the account with the problem.

    Note: If FileVault is enabled in OS X 10.9 or earlier, or if a firmware password is set, or if the startup volume is a software RAID, you can’t do this. Ask for further instructions.

    Safe mode is much slower to start up and run than normal, with limited graphics performance, and some things won’t work at all, including sound output and Wi-Fi on certain models. The next normal startup may also be somewhat slow.

    The login screen appears even if you usually login automatically. You must know your login password in order to log in. If you’ve forgotten the password, you will need to reset it before you begin.

    Test while in safe mode. Same problem?

    After testing, restart as usual (not in safe mode) and verify that you still have the problem. Post the results of the test.

  • by DrDeath,

    DrDeath DrDeath Mar 25, 2016 11:18 AM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 25, 2016 11:18 AM in response to DrDeath

    Same problem.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 25, 2016 12:01 PM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 25, 2016 12:01 PM in response to DrDeath

    Are all folders affected, or only some? If only some, are those folders inside your home folder?

  • by DrDeath,

    DrDeath DrDeath Mar 25, 2016 12:11 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 25, 2016 12:11 PM in response to Linc Davis

    It's all of them. It starts already at the root level of the drive.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 25, 2016 12:26 PM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 25, 2016 12:26 PM in response to DrDeath

    What about the Desktop? If you rearrange the icons, is the arrangement lost when you restart?

  • by DrDeath,

    DrDeath DrDeath Mar 25, 2016 12:36 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 25, 2016 12:36 PM in response to Linc Davis

    The settings for the desktop stick. As far as I can see, manual rearrangement of the icons also seems to be kept in other folders. Window positions and view options are not, though.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 25, 2016 2:35 PM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 25, 2016 2:35 PM in response to DrDeath

    Please back up all data before proceeding.

    This procedure will unlock all your user files (not system files) and reset their ownership, permissions, and access controls to the default. If you've intentionally set special values for those attributes on any of your files, they will be reverted. In that case, either stop here, or be prepared to recreate the settings if necessary. Do so only after verifying that those settings didn't cause the problem. If none of this is meaningful to you, you don't need to worry about it, but you do need to follow the instructions below.

    Step 1

    If you have more than one user, and the one in question is not an administrator, then go to Step 2.

    Triple-click anywhere in the following line on this page to select it:

    sudo find ~ $TMPDIR.. -exec chflags -h nosappnd,noschg,nosunlnk,nouappnd,nouchg {} + -exec chown -h $UID {} + -exec chmod +rw {} + -exec chmod -h -N {} + -type d -exec chmod -h +x {} + 2>&-

    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

    Launch the built-in Terminal application in any one of the following ways:

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad and start typing the name.

    Paste into the Terminal window by pressing command-V. I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, you may have to press the return key after pasting.

    You'll be prompted for your login password, which won't be displayed when you type it. Type carefully and then press return. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.

    The command may take several minutes to run, depending on how many files you have. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear, then quit Terminal.

    Step 2 (optional)

    Take this step only if you have trouble with Step 1, if you prefer not to take it, or if it doesn't solve the problem.

    Start up in Recovery mode. You may be prompted to select a language, then the OS X Utilities screen will appear.

    If you use FileVault 2, select Disk Utility, then select the icon of the FileVault startup volume ("Macintosh HD," unless you gave it a different name.) It will be nested below another drive icon. Click the Unlock button in the toolbar and enter your login password when prompted. Then quit Disk Utility to be returned to the main screen.

    Select

              Utilities Terminal

    from the menu bar. A Terminal window will open. In that window, type this:

    resetp

    Press the tab key. The partial command you typed will automatically be completed to this:

    resetpassword

    Press return. A Reset Password window will open. You’re not going to reset a password.

    Select your startup volume ("Macintosh HD," unless you gave it a different name) if not already selected.

    Select your username from the menu labeled Select the user account if not already selected.

    Under Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs, click the Reset button.

    Select

               Restart

    from the menu bar.

  • by DrDeath,

    DrDeath DrDeath Mar 26, 2016 11:51 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 26, 2016 11:51 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Okay, I tried both, to no avail.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 26, 2016 4:28 PM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 26, 2016 4:28 PM in response to DrDeath

    Please arrange the Finder windows as you wish, then relaunch the Finder. What happens?

     

    Force an app to close on your Mac - Apple Support

  • by DrDeath,

    DrDeath DrDeath Mar 27, 2016 1:51 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 27, 2016 1:51 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Any adjustments are lost and the windows return to the default size and position (as already mentioned in my original post).

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 27, 2016 5:33 AM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 27, 2016 5:33 AM in response to DrDeath

    Please back up all data before proceeding.

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

    ~/Library/Saved Application State/com.apple.finder.savedState

    Right-click or control-click the line and select

              Services Reveal in Finder (or just Reveal)

    from the contextual menu.* A folder should open with an item selected. Move the selected item to the Trash. Relaunch the Finder and test. On the first relaunch, the window states will be lost. The question is what happens on the second relaunch.

    *If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination  command-C. In the Finder, select

              Go Go to Folder...

    from the menu bar and paste into the box that opens by pressing command-V. You may not see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Mar 27, 2016 5:53 AM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 27, 2016 5:53 AM in response to DrDeath

    DrDeath wrote:

     

    Since the update to 10.11.4, the Finder not only has forgotten what position and display options I had set before the update, it also no longer stores them: when I reboot or just restart the Finder, all the adjustments I made a gone again.

     

    I already tried deleting the .DS_Store files and the Finder preferences, but to no avail. I also couldn't find any good tips on the web, but won't rule out I missed a good solution. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

    In System Preferences>General: disable "Close windows when quitting an app". Make sure "Reopen windows when logging back in" is enabled in the "Are you sure…" dialog.

  • by DrDeath,

    DrDeath DrDeath Mar 27, 2016 7:15 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 27, 2016 7:15 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Linc Davis wrote:

     

    Please back up all data before proceeding.

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

    ~/Library/Saved Application State/com.apple.finder.savedState

    Right-click or control-click the line and select

              Services Reveal in Finder (or just Reveal)

    from the contextual menu.* A folder should open with an item selected. Move the selected item to the Trash. Relaunch the Finder and test. On the first relaunch, the window states will be lost. The question is what happens on the second relaunch.

    *If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination  command-C. In the Finder, select

              Go Go to Folder...

    from the menu bar and paste into the box that opens by pressing command-V. You may not see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

    No difference.

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Mar 27, 2016 7:16 AM in response to DrDeath
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    Mar 27, 2016 7:16 AM in response to DrDeath

    Did you try my suggestion?

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