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Q: I have found a pretty good probook. Retina Mid-2012 - MC976LL/A. I want concrete steps to find the original owner to return this propbook.

Please support to find the original owner of a Retina Mid-2012 - MC976LL/A.

 

Serial number of the laptop; C0**********KQ2

 

verification of the identity of the rightfull owner will be the name used as the the administrator account.

 

As far as i can concern the original owner can be found by using the serial number. But i have no intention to put that much effort. Im not part of the Apple fan base and have no intentions to become as such. Registering is the last and final step that i will perform to do 'the right thing'  This machine is expensive and i would like to do right to the person whom purchased this laptop.

 

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MacBook Pro with Retina display, iOS 9.3, none

Posted on Mar 26, 2016 3:06 PM

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  • by lllaass,Helpful

    lllaass lllaass Mar 26, 2016 6:08 PM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 26, 2016 6:08 PM in response to decrpty

    Turn it into the police.

    Apple will not help

  • by Csound1,Helpful

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 26, 2016 6:22 PM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 26, 2016 6:22 PM in response to decrpty

    Turn it over to the local authorities.

  • by decrpty,

    decrpty decrpty Mar 26, 2016 6:12 PM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 26, 2016 6:12 PM in response to decrpty

    If Apple does not see any need to take action that suits their public profiling and/or marketing strategy. I have a new sweet laptop and a clean conscious. p

     

    Thanks Apple!

  • by BobTheFisherman,

    BobTheFisherman BobTheFisherman Mar 26, 2016 7:31 PM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 26, 2016 7:31 PM in response to decrpty

    decrpty wrote:

     

    If Apple does not see any need to take action that suits their public profiling and/or marketing strategy. I have a new sweet laptop and a clean conscious. p

     

    Thanks Apple!

    What does that mean? If you were to find a car on your property would you call the car manufacturer or the police to report the find? The same goes for any found object, would you call the object manufacturer or the proper authorities?

  • by decrpty,

    decrpty decrpty Mar 27, 2016 12:51 AM in response to BobTheFisherman
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    Mar 27, 2016 12:51 AM in response to BobTheFisherman

    Hi Bob,

     

    Comparing a car to a laptop doesn't really seem relevant. Its a small effort for Apple to find the person behind the serial number. Instead the blur out the serial number in this post without making any concrete action to find the right owner.

     

    I'm in eastern Europe now and bringing the laptop to the authorities could give the desired effect - but is not certain. What is certain is that I will loose a 1300 dollar laptop if I act as such. So once again; if apple doesn't want to use the possibilities that the secure registration of their products has - for whatever reason. I just got myself a brand new top-model laptop.

     

    Have a good easter

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 27, 2016 3:28 AM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 27, 2016 3:28 AM in response to decrpty

    How can you lose something that your never owned?

     

    Ciao.

  • by VikingOSX,Solvedanswer

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Mar 27, 2016 4:22 AM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 27, 2016 4:22 AM in response to decrpty

    Apple is not responsible for your moral compass — you are. Keeping what is not yours by redirecting blame on Apple is simply an excuse to keep what is not yours.

     

    A couple of years ago, there was a local murder and theft of a MacBook Pro. Apple and the police coordinated tracking that device, the arrest of the guilty party, and recovery of the machine. Would you agree that it is far better for you to do the right thing and turn that equipment into the police, rather than the original owner share Find My Mac data with the police, and they nail you for theft (because it is in your possession)?

  • by decrpty,

    decrpty decrpty Mar 27, 2016 5:05 AM in response to VikingOSX
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    Mar 27, 2016 5:05 AM in response to VikingOSX

    This is usefull answer. So Apple has possibilities to find the rightfull owner. But has policy to just not give a a **** - as it probably does not generate any income. And as I read your reactions it is my 'moral' duty to give a useful product to the police.

     

    The arguments that are given or not relevant;

     

    - I have to be afraid. (As there is a possibility to track down a owner - but Apple decides when and how)

    - Im responsible for a moral decission, but nobody is questioning Apple policy that they can and SHOULD use their fine registration system to get this device back to the rightfull owner.

     

    They even removed the posted serial number. But policy somehow prevents to get closer to my goal. The argument that "hosts" on this forum just do their task and policy can't be questioned and accepted as such. And even worse...I have to adapt my behaviour to the choices of some company which I don't care about at all. That is moral blindness.

     

    No. I already take the step to register here - get involved with you guys. And got nothing functional . I'm just going to play with MY probook. I will use the finders keepers principle as that suits me at this very moment. For sure I'm not willing to adapt my behaviour because some company - or its fanbase - all agree that I should change my behaviour due to chooses from Apple in their policy.

     

    What a waste of time. And I regret trying to get this device back to its owner in the way I saw it fit.

     

    Thanks for all reactions and happy easter

     

    To make it better I will put Windows on it.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 27, 2016 5:16 AM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 27, 2016 5:16 AM in response to decrpty

    decrpty wrote:

     

    If Apple does not see any need to take action that suits their public profiling and/or marketing strategy. I have a new sweet laptop and a clean conscious. p

     

    Thanks Apple!

    So you are going to steal it then

  • by VikingOSX,

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Mar 27, 2016 5:59 AM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 27, 2016 5:59 AM in response to decrpty

    The original owner, when properly identified by Apple will have access to the MacBook's serial number, and hardware network address, and if they have filed a police report, may have help from Apple tracking this machine on the Internet — regardless of the installed operating system.


    Finders/Keepers is a convenient excuse until the machine is traced to you. Then it will be too late to voluntarily turn it in to the police.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 27, 2016 6:51 AM in response to VikingOSX
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    Mar 27, 2016 6:51 AM in response to VikingOSX

    The Finders Keepers method is simply theft.

  • by VikingOSX,

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Mar 27, 2016 6:55 AM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 27, 2016 6:55 AM in response to Csound1

    That distinction was not lost on me, and my morale compass is working just fine.

  • by BobTheFisherman,

    BobTheFisherman BobTheFisherman Mar 27, 2016 7:40 AM in response to decrpty
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    Mar 27, 2016 7:40 AM in response to decrpty

    If the original owner reported the computer stolen to the police and the police find it in your possession you will become the prime suspect in the theft. So enjoy the computer but keep looking over your shoulder because the police will find you and the computer some day. Then you can tell the police that finders keepers is the law while they are prosecuting you. You can tell the police that you found the computer but Apple's inaction convinced you that it was alright for you to keep and not report it. Good luck with that. Write us from jail and let us know how much easier it would have been to report your find to the proper authorities.

  • by decrpty,

    decrpty decrpty Mar 29, 2016 5:58 AM in response to BobTheFisherman
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    Mar 29, 2016 5:58 AM in response to BobTheFisherman

    Dear evil macowners,

     

    I'm still not in jail. I even went to the lost and found service at the place where i found this laptop. I asked the question (as it is a very small airport) if somebody reported a lost apple device. The answer was simply no. Besides that they wanted to divert the problem to the airline companies where i had to confirm that i did not recover this laptop from an airplane.

     

    So i tried here to find the rightfull owner. And it seems that its generally accepted that Apple does not do any action. Even if they can. Instead they blur the posted registration number in terms of privacy?

     

    Your remarks made me think. Even if they are not really constructive. So i visited the lost & found department from the airport and asked if somebody reported this device as lost. This wasn't the case. And was also exactly the reason why i didn't just bring it there. If it's not claimed then who get it?

     

    I don't mind - and would even like - to give it back to the rightfull owner. But i don't see a need to make a random stranger happy if this device is not claimed - wich it turn out it is not. Besides my argument that Apple could play a role in this as i provided all necessary information to do so is completly ignored by all people whom responded.

     

    Yes. I could give it back to the proper authorities. ' The lost and found department'  from this airport. But that does not get the device back to the rightfull owner. Apple doesn't care and just follows policy and everybody on this community seems to completly agree. I guess next time i will see an Apple product somewhere i walk around it

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