Can't remove download only from my own files in iBooks for Mac

My Mac doesn't allow me to a remove a file I did not purchase via the iBooks Store. It only allows me to delete the whole file from iCloud and iOS devices.

Only downloads from purchased books are allowed to be removed from my Mac.

On iOS devices this works ok for both purchased and my own files.


According to the Apple Support-site it should work for all files on the Mac:

Mac

  1. Open iBooks.
  2. Scroll to find the item that you want to delete.
  3. Right-click or Control-click on the item that you want to delete, then select Delete.
  4. Click Delete Everywhere to remove the file from iCloud and all of your devices.
    Click Remove Download to remove only the copy stored on the device that you're using. The file stays in iCloud and on your other devices.


Am I the only one having this problem that sounds like a bg?

iMac with Retina 5K display, OS X El Capitan (10.11.4)

Posted on Mar 27, 2016 4:58 AM

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Mar 28, 2016 4:22 AM in response to sidderke

That's exactly what I thought. Despite 7 betas they still can't get these simple things right. It should work the same way as with Apple Music or Photos, where you can decide yourself --for each device-- if you want the files on your local device, or just on the iCloud.


See also my other discussion about the fact that changes made in the Title or Author etc. are not synced to the iCloud (Change in Title is not synced to other devices)

May 19, 2016 11:44 AM in response to sidderke

Glad i'm not the only one who noticed this. The "remove download" feature works correctly on iPhone/iPad, but for OSX the only option for self-uploaded books is "delete everywhere." Hopefully Apple addresses this as it defeats the purpose of iCloud for iBooks until they do. I have a 600MB PDF that I don't need stored on my Mac that I read on my iPad and only need for reference sometimes on my Mac - but until this is fixed, I guess I just have to keep this half a gig PDF on my computer.

May 21, 2016 1:05 AM in response to autobahns

Yeah, I have 20GB of PDF's that I like having on my iPad and don't mind having in my 'master' library on the iMac, but my 128GB Macbook air really doesn't need it (I don't even have the storage room and the other day I couldn't install an OSX update because of it). Please report to Apple as I did, then they will look into it. According to their support, the program should be able to do this, so it seems like a bug.

Oct 3, 2016 9:22 AM in response to sidderke

iCloud is not a "cloud storage system", it is a way to sync files between devices.

Of course if you delete the original file (the one that is in your mac and the one that you are sharing throught icloud to sync with all your devices) you delete also the icloud copy.

Just make a copy elsewere before deleting the item from ibooks.

There is no way that I know of selectively use iCloud for some items and not for the rest of them

Oct 3, 2016 11:28 PM in response to alexeiei

You are completely wrong in this case. I'm gonna argument why:


1. iCloud Music Library works like this too (the older iTunes Match). If you delete a song, you can choose to delete only a local copy on your device, for download later, or to remove it from your library everywhere. iCloud is not *only* a sync-service anymore. iCloud Drive IS a storage service, and it is in OSX 10.11.4 and iOS 9.3 (if I'm not mistaken) that Apple allowed to USE iCloud Drive to store your PDF's in iBooks and not only stuff purchased from iBooks.


2. On iOS iBooks works like it should. If you tap delete on your iPhone or your iPad, you can choose to delete a local copy or remove it from your library on iCloud. The functionality is there and it works correctly on iOS.


3. On iOS iBooks for Mac it SHOULD be there. In fact, there used to be 1 or 2 support-articles from Apple that said it was possible and worked just as described above, but now I see that Apple changed those articles (I don't know if that means that the functionality will never come?)

The thing is: Apple put in this feature: use iBooks now for your own PDF's. They said how it worked. I for one, bought extra iCloud Storage for it. The feature didn't work as advertised in the support article and on iOS. I complained to Apple. Now I kind of see that Apple, instead of listening, changed the Support-article so it matches the fact that iBooks for Mac CAN'T do this with PDF's and Books you imported from somewhere else then the iBooks store.

Oct 4, 2016 3:05 AM in response to sidderke

1. We are not talking about iCloud Music, and the features that apple provide don't have to be the same for each app. iCloud music is not the same as iCloud Drive


2. It works like this because you first added a local copy of an item (pdf or epub)to iBooks from your computer so icloud needs to know if you want to remove the original o just the copy that is in ibooks for ios (you are using a sync feature that uses iCloud space, not an iBooks feature)


3. Maybe it is a bug, I don´t know. You can always save a pdf (or any kind of file) in iCloud drive and download it to any device, use it and delete it from the device without deleting the original file. You can't delete the original file that you share through iCloud and expect for it to be available in the rest of the devices.


I'm telling you the way it is, and I think you are talking about the way it should be or the way that you want it to be.

I think you are confusing iCloud Drive with the use of this service that an app makes.

Of course I'm not an expert and if anyone knows how to do what you want to do, I'll be very glad to learn about it.


https://www.apple.com/icloud/

Oct 4, 2016 7:24 AM in response to alexeiei

First, let me tell you that Apple only changed their support documents after months of complaining of users saying it didn't work. (I spent 45 minutes talking with Apple technicians on the phone, until they admitted it must be a bug).


iBooks IS using iCloud Drive. Literally. It used to be that you could only have iBooks download books you bought from the iBook store. Since 9.3 and 10.11.4 you can use iCloud Drive in combination, to use it for all your pdf's and books from other stores/sources. This wasn't the case.

Screenshots in attachments, it is literally in your iCloud Drive management that you can change the preferences of having iBook use it's data from there.


User uploaded file

User uploaded file


Again, the functionality that people want IS there on iOS, was advertised trough support documents to be in OSX, but never came to OSX. Again, only the last months this has been changed, in a support document.

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