Strange Mac Mini startup behavior....

I have a very strange issue with my Mac mini. When I press the start up button the light comes on but I get no video or chime. I can hear the disk running though. So then I hold down the power button until it shuts off and then immediately restart it and it works fine. This isn't a one time issue. It ALWAYS works this way. After I use the computer I shut it down properly; I come back the next time to use the computer and have to go through the same thing--I start it, nothing happens, hold down the power button until it turns off, press the power button again and voila it works again. Every time I start it I go through the same process. It always starts up and works but only after I go through this ritual of a single failed startup followed by shutdown then a successful startup. I've tried everything recommended to no avail (resetting, PRAM, VRAM, SMC, etc.). I can't imagine what's going on. Has anyone ever experienced this behavior before? Are there logs somewhere I can review to compare the good startups with the bad startups? Thanks for any assistance you can provide.


Model Name:Mac mini
Model Identifier:Macmini6,2
Processor Name:Intel Core i7
Processor Speed:2.3 GHz
Number of Processors:1
Total Number of Cores:4
L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB
L3 Cache:6 MB
Memory:16 GB
Boot ROM Version:MM61.0106.B0A
SMC Version (system):2.8f1
Serial Number (system):C0******WYM
Hardware UUID:****



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Posted on Mar 27, 2016 4:40 PM

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Mar 27, 2016 4:56 PM in response to WillyMcFly

Curious -- it may have a gremlin in there...!


However on a second note, you should edit the Serial Number from your post.

Use the gear shape icon to expose Edit. We don't need the serial number here.


Otherwise the host may remove the info anyway.

...The time to edit a post is limited.


Did you check the startup items in the OS X in your user account? Have

you set up & tried a Second user account to test the startup issues?


• Try safe mode if your Mac doesn't finish starting up - Apple Support

Tried Safe boot mode and then repair disk permissions, & other stuff? Restart

&/or shut down normally. Try OS X Recovery & its OS X Utilities> Disk Utility?

• OS X: About OS X Recovery - Apple Support


Perhaps some Console log reports based on the time, date, minute, second

could be helpful in discovering the reasons behind the quirks... 😐

Mar 31, 2016 11:43 AM in response to K Shaffer

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I'm inclined to the "gremlin" cause because I've tried everything else to no avail. A couple of things that I learned in the process of troubleshooting. One, if you select reboot rather than shutdown it always reboots properly. Also, if you shutdown then reboot via the power button immediately after it shuts down it restarts fine. It only seems to exhibit this behavior after it's been shut down and left to sit a while. I don't have any scientific explanation for any of this. I tried to make sense of the console logs but it looks as if (and I can't be 100 percent sure of this) it doesn't record the first attempted failed boot process (in other words nothing is happening). That would mean that the light is coming on and there is some humming sound but that no data is actually being transferred. At this point I'm clueless as to the reasons for the behavior. Fortunately it always boots up on the second try so I can live with that. I can also leave it in sleep mode and it always wakes properly so I may just leave it on all the time.

Mar 31, 2016 1:07 PM in response to WillyMcFly

My two most used Mac desktop computers (also portables when I've set up a desk space to leave them turned on)

are left on and allowed to sleep, and occasionally I restart them in Safe mode and repair permissions or boot from

a utility (OS X Recovery on newest, OS X install DVD on older) to check and test some aspect; or not usually after

a few months of being allowed to sleep when they will, according to settings of my choice, it's good to restart them.


The longest my Macs (for the most part, going back 10 years) have been left on, yet allowed to sleep; with displays

set to sleep sooner to save from excess wear or heat, has been eight months, on. With older OS X versions in old

hardware their status would be easily checked to see if the memory was being held in cache beyond reason, and so

a restart after several months would be an idea. I'd sometimes log out of one user account and into a second one

and that sometimes would allow me to not bother restarting, and test the system. And clones, for testing are good.


A backup of what you have in your computer now, for a reference copy (a clone?) that could be used to run the Mac

from outside, if testing did not change the issue; since a problem like you state may have hardware basis, is an idea.


You could backup the computer and then go into there and erase the hard drive; with these newer OS X versions

and their dependency for online downloads to restore the system, and special partitions in the hard drive that a utility

would likely destroy, the ability to use Internet Recovery to get the system from scratch (and from the purchased list

of OS X upgrades and previous included software bits) can be prone to issues. But that could be done as a test, if

you happen to have more than one computer to use one while the other is in limbo. I've found extra macs helpful.

And backup power supplies, those automatically switching ones where high/low grid power is filtered; has a battery.



Since most parts can be removed from the Mini (level of difficulty depends on if you expect it to work again later)

and replaced, troubleshooting the source of the problem is the important detail. Some software may not like to

play along with the hardware. There may be some 'startup items' or things that load first that are bad software so

they may be suspect in a bizarre voodoo clinic operation where you have to sacrifice some KFC after re-warming

or maybe a vegan soy chilli dog in the microwave. Along with a warm beverage; my fav is instant crystals coffee.

And some time to consider, to search for alternatives to just going crazy... Or if already there, going 'sane.'


Did you see what kind of bits an etrecheck report shows? I've ran a few and there was nothing untoward implied

but I don't expect to see any; for the most part my Macs just work. And I am aware of their hardware limits. Maybe

a full diagnostic testing interval should be done; that'd be a retail paid visit where you leave the Mac, for a few days.


Maybe someone else will look into this and laughing know the answer was a nearby ant farm whose stragglers

only were looking for shelter and warmth when they found a vacancy in your Mini hotel?


Apparently I haven't an answer except to create more than one type of backup (plus time machine) on more than one

external drive device, and see if an all-new installation from scratch exhibits similar issues. An external drive with a

basic installation that can be used to start and run the computer may be helpful. Also different user accounts can be

good to use where software may be a cause of odd issues, if those accounts haven't been exposed to the same odd

bits that may clash to create problems. Hardware based possibilities need to be isolated from software for discovery.


Good luck in this matter! 🙂

Mar 31, 2016 1:34 PM in response to K Shaffer

Thanks very much for your comprehensive reply. I haven't thought to do a full back up and restore but I'll definitely give it a try. One (important) thing I forgot to mention is that right after I bought the Mini (I got it new for the Apple store) I replaced the hard disk with a Crucial SSD using the iFixit Mac Mini kit and instructions. It's a standard Crucial SSD which the Mac identified without any issues but I suppose that could be the source of the problem. I don't believe the problem started immediately after I replaced the drive so I'm not sure if I can claim cause and effect but anything is possible. I also suppose that with the upgraded disk it would make it ineligible for Apple support. I don't know since I've never taken anything to Apple for repair. I'll post back if I get any new information. I'm leaning toward just leaving in sleep mode for now and not worrying too much about it.🙂

Mar 31, 2016 1:41 PM in response to WillyMcFly

There had been some issues regarding upgrade to SSD as covered by instructions

available for any conversion, as they apply across brands, from the OWC macsales

site in regard to installation of their preferred brand of SSD upgrades for Mini.


A few details apply that may affect the upgrade in practical use; and I had seen their

information with some interest because my Mini has dual 1-TB 5400-RPM HDDs so

that can be a slowdown point with some software or application use, in this model.


Well, I have to go offline.

Take care & good luck! 🙂

Mar 31, 2016 3:26 PM in response to K Shaffer

Some Mini owners who also contribute here have helped other users where an upgrade to SSD

has resulted in odd problems to include performance issues & unexplained phenomena.


The OWC macsales info page with instruction videos including SSD into Mini, here:

http://eshop.macsales.com/installvideos/


There are some blog pages (that I don't have bookmarked) which did have some helpful details.

And the main portal to that is here: http://blog.macsales.com/


Perhaps I was thinking of this blog at macsales, that says 2012 but may also include the upgrade

path where certain models still had an optical drive; or there was a method to install a second HDD

or SSD in those without the optical drive (somehow jambed in) since there is a drive doubler bracket

to replace an optical drive. So that part won't help because your model has no built-in optical drive.


Here's: Special Note for Adding an SSD to a 2012 Mac Mini -- from OtherWorldComputing Blog...

{note the 'comments' section may be a bit helpful since others had issues across several models}

http://blog.macsales.com/15619-special-note-for-adding-an-ssd-to-a-2012-mac-mini


Anyway, I thought to get back with these links.

Maybe they're of some use, or maybe not! 🙂

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