Is the LED screen used in iPhones different from AMOLED?

I have a neurological illness, and when I tried the iPhone 6 it caused severe pain in my eyes. Talking to Apple, I think there were many factors including the increased contrast ratio and dual domain pixels for wider viewing angles. Every single possible remedy and advanced brightness setting (abd things like reducing white point/reduce transparency/darken colours, and also using the trick in the zoom settings that can take the brightness lower than the standard options) was tried with the guidance of Apple support but to no avail, so I went back to my iPhone 5s.


I'm now interested in the iPhone SE, and the screen specifications are the same as the 5s, except for the screen being LED rather than LCD. It was explained to me by an Apple sales guy that this would make the screen brighter than the 5s, but hopefully this can be taken care of with advanced settings above and the Night Shift feature, which I'm already using. I once tried a Samsung phone with an AMOLED screen, and that was awful for my eyes and had to be sent back.


So, when Apple say that the SE (and their other current phones) are LED, do they mean AMOLED, or is there a difference? Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks.

iPhone 5s, iOS 9.3

Posted on Mar 28, 2016 10:10 AM

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Dec 11, 2016 12:48 PM in response to Fliff

Hi I'm responding to your message written last March, I too have difficulty w the phone due to what is known as the iPhones having motion on their screens. Try going to Settings•General•Assesibility•Reduce motion (to "on")

Have you looked up Irlen Syndrome or Scoptic Sensitivity Syndrome. All of these things have been very helpful to me. For me it's not an opthamolic issue but how my brain processes light.

Hopefully this is helpful!

Mar 28, 2016 12:58 PM in response to Fliff

As I say, there is a lot of confusion and miss-speak about display technology. They ALL use LEDs for the backlight, whether it is one or multiple. The actual display, the thing that renders colors and images, is an LCD. There is no such thing as an LED display except on very large formats like Sports arena boards and such where there is room for thousands of separate LEDs to make up the image. Even the smallest LEDs are too large and would use far too much power collectively to work in any hand held device not to mention that in a small screen they would make for a horrible coarse, low-res display as each pixel would be a physical LED.


OLED is a very different technology than LCD, and as yet, Apple is not using OLED on its devices. OLED's using light emissive organic compounds (i.e. organic compounds that inherently emit light when a current is passed through them). An LCD does not emit any light at all, thus needs a backlight to display the image formed by the LCD.


So the iPhone SE may indeed have more LED backlights than previous iPhone models, but every iPhone model ever made has used LEDs for the backlight function.

Mar 28, 2016 1:13 PM in response to Fliff

No, Apple has not used any AMOLED displays on any of their devices yet. Samsung's Galaxy line may be the best know series with AMOLED displays, but Motorola and Nokia have used them on some of their devices too.


Any LCD display needs a backlight behind it to display anything, and on small hand held devices that has meant LEDs for the white backlight (older computer LED displays and TVs actually used cold cathode ray tubes - fluorescent bulbs). Apple's retina displays are still fairly traditional IPSLCD displays with LEDs for the backlighting. "Retina" is just Apple's trademark name for their higher than standard resolution LCDs.


The terms LED display and LCD display have unfortunately become almost synonymous in market speech. But the actual display is an LCD and the light source that shines through it to display the image are LEDs. An LCD on a iphone without a backlight would appear simply black.

Mar 28, 2016 11:22 AM in response to Michael Black

Thanks Michael. I was told by Apple that the iPhone 6, 6s and upcoming SE are LED rather than all the previous iPhone LCD screens, and that those LCD screens used a single light (presumably LED as you're saying) to light them up, but the newer models have several LED backlights shining directly out of the screen. The salesperson said that they were therefore LED rather than LCD screens.


I've just looked at the Apple online store and the current models (and upcoming SE) are described as 'LED-backlit', which sounds like what you're describing, so I'm now confused as to whether I've been misinformed or not, because I rang to ask why the SE was being described as 'three times brighter' than the 5s, and this is the answer I was given - that instead of one light there are something like 7 (?) and this is why it's an 'LED' screen.


Are you able to make any sense of this please?


Thanks

Amy

Mar 28, 2016 1:03 PM in response to Michael Black

Thanks. This makes sense now. The new SE must have more LED backlights than the 5s (according to what the salesperson told me). But if you're correct, he was misinforming me about how the screen has now 'changed from an LCD to an LED screen'.


I'm due to speak to one of the senior Mac experts, possibly tomorrow. I'll let you know if the answer is any different to this.


Many thanks.

Mar 29, 2016 7:55 AM in response to Fliff

I'm not sure how much interest there will be in this topic, but just in case anyone else cares, I want to follow up and say that I spoke to a senior Mac expert today who told me the the Apple sales guy who told me that the 5s was only lit by one LED and the SE is lit by more was talking rubbish, in that no LCD screen could be lit by a single light. He didnt have the full specs for the SE yet but was confident from what he does know that there is very little or no difference between the displays on the 5s and the SE.


I think I will be buying an SE to try so that I can see for myself.

Mar 29, 2016 10:04 AM in response to Fliff

It would be hard to get even lighting with a single LED, so I can see that. There is usually a row along one side, or two, but I do not know how many actually. The one thing I do know is LED technology is not static. CREE LEDs is just down the road from where I work, and they have increased the light output of there's several times in just the last couple of years. So actually manufacturer and type of LED makes a huge difference in light output, power consumption and so on. It could be that the SE is simply using newer, higher output LEDs than the 5 or 5s, which were designed a couple of years ago now.


For example, I have had two Lenovo laptops in the past year - a cheap consumer grade IdeaPad and a newer Yoga (which replaced the IdeaPad). The QED screen on the Yoga is MUCH brighter than the display on the IdeaPad, and in part I've read that is due to higher quality LEDs used on the more expensive Yoga line than Lenovo uses on the IdeaPads. Not all LEDs are equal, so it's not merely how many are packed behind a display, but what type, and quality.


I know CREE LEDs are typically much more expensive than other brands, but CREE's technology also has some of the highest light output of any LED available.

Mar 29, 2016 10:09 AM in response to Michael Black

Thanks. This is helpful and very interesting. I think in my case I can only go back to the point of buying the SE and seeing how the screen compares with the 5s and whether I can tolerate it, and returning it if it's no good. I had the 5 before and the 5s is brighter than that so I guess the SE could well be brighter again, in which case I would experiment with the brightness settings before giving up.


I appreciate your helpful input, Michael - thanks again.

Mar 29, 2016 11:39 AM in response to Fliff

That's alright, you've been more than generous already, and like most of us here, I honestly don't post here for the points. They are just a nice way for all of us here to acknowledge eachother.


I'm eligible for an upgrade myself, from my iPhone 6. I want to wait awhile, until I can see an SE in hand though. I complained about the size of the 6 when it came out, but I've kind of gotten used to it now, so I need to have the 6s and SE in hand at the same time to see decide between them.


Don't forget in the settings about night shift in iOS 9.3 which need not be used merely at night. It doesn't merely dim the backlight but adjusts the light hue as well.

Mar 30, 2016 3:23 PM in response to Michael Black

That's interesting to me Michael. Because I don't seem to have a choice I tend to think that everyone with the iPhone 6/6s would never go back to a smaller screen! Like everything, there are pros and cons I guess. When I had to return my iPhone 6 I initially felt like the 5s was this pokey little thing that I was tapping away at to type into (and I have small hands)! But I very quickly reacclimatised. And it's good to be able to use it with one hand, which I couldn't otherwise do.


I don't know how it works in the States but here in the UK if you buy from Apple online/by phone, you get a 14 day trial period in which you can return the phone if it's not suitable, as long as it's in resaleable condition. That's what I did. It's the same if you order over the phone or online from a network provider on a contract. I wish you well in making the right choice for you!


I've ordered an SE from John Lewis, a department store chain here - they went up online for pre-orders last night and can be collected on launch day so I should have it tomorrow. Here's hoping it works out. They all sold out within an hour so I'm glad I got one!

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