64 GB of RAM DOES indeed work in a Mac Pro 2,1, check it out.

The original specs of the 2,1 Mac Pro states it can only accept up to 16 GB RAM, though, many sites include upgrade kits to 32 GB. With that being said, the 32 GB limit comes from the 32-Bit EFI ROM, which also boots the system to a 32-Bit Kernel, up until 10.7.5. Since my Mac Pro 2,1 is running Mac OS X 10.10.5 using a 32-Bit boot.efi file, yet, is booting into a 64-bit Kernel, it can fully address the 64 GB of RAM installed. These modules were purchased from eBay, and were all pulled from an HP Proliant server, and are of the Micron brand.

The sole purpose of this post is to prove a point, to serve as a valid testament to the "theory" which states these machines can "potentially" support 64 GB of RAM. I understand, these machines are no longer supported, and not a whole bunch of people actually own this particular machine anymore. If, however, it serves any informational reference, to, reinforce the decisions made by those willing to upgrade their machines, in such a way which confirms the ability to run 64 GB of RAM on a Mac Pro 2,1/1,1, then, this would be a strong reference point from which to confirm such possibilities. You're welcome.User uploaded file




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Mac Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10), x5365 x2, 32G R, 80G SSD/3T HDD GTX960

Posted on Mar 28, 2016 11:03 PM

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Nov 13, 2017 2:16 PM in response to supericecreamsandwich

Hi supericecreamsandwich,


I am very interested by your setup, I have exactly the same computer model, I love it and want to keep it as long as possible. My main use is video editing (Premiere Pro, Da Vinci Resolve, HD and if possible 4K...).


Just few questions :

- How did you "replace the heatsinks with Apple heatsinks" ? Did you used your apple heatsinks from your former Apple Ram or did you buy new ones (where can I find some ?) ?

- This operation seems a bit "touchy", how to be sure not to damage the Ram DIMM ?

- What is the RAM model you recommend with Mac Pro 2,1 ?


And one last question about your video card :

- Do you have a real improvement with the Geforce GTX 960 compared with my old fashion ATI Radeon HD 5770 ?


Thank you so much for your help.

Apr 6, 2016 11:16 AM in response to F Iragorri

I generally post in Facebook computer user groups, as Apple Support communities generally are oriented toward user-end problems, instead of allowing upgrades such as the ones I have performed.


Upgrading to a Mac Pro 2,1 from a 1,1 requires 2 total steps:


1: Replace your CPUs with Dual Xeon x5365 processors.
2: Download the Mac Pro 1,1 2,1 firmware upgrade utility tool. After rebooting and applying the firmware, this may result in detecting only one processor. Reboot, and you should be fine.


If you're looking to upgrade to 64GB of RAM on a Mac Pro 1,1 or 2,1, make sure of the following:


1: You're running OS X 10.8.0+, as it's exclusive to 64-Bit Kernels, which would allow your Mac Pro to register over 32GB of RAM, despite having a hacked/borked 32-bit EFI boot loader.


2: If you're willing to face the project head on, please do so: 32/64GB of RAM would produce plenty more heat than your standard 16GB/below config, so if you're buying non-Apple RAM modules, replace the heatsinks with Apple heatsinks. I did this, and my temps dropped from the 70-80C range, down to the 40-50's.


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Apr 6, 2016 2:49 PM in response to supericecreamsandwich

Hello supericecreamsandwich, I would appreciate very much your help and advice. I am a recording engineer and music producer and have been working in Logic and FCP X in a 2.1 mac pro with 2 quad 3ghz updated recently to 32GB in ram, If I had seen your post I would have bought the 64 GB for my upgrade. Right now I'm trying to upgrade the OS X, I just got a 500 GB ssd exclusively for maverics and also made the usb boot flash card. I'm not a technician but can follow instructions and read a lot. I would love to see my mac pro in maverics, It would be of great help for me. May God bless you and thanks again for your help.

Apr 7, 2016 7:19 AM in response to F Iragorri

There are several upgrade paths available for your Mac Pro, still. System-software wise, I strongly recommend Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.5 with a modded boot.EFI file, as it is a very stable system for the Mac Pro 2,1. El Capitan works and is stable, however, I cannot give you accurate information, since the decision to not use El Cap on my own machine has been influenced by the fact I own and operate a GTX 960 in my Mac Pro 2,1, and the Nvidia Web Drivers are quite spotty with the releases that do and don't work. Given that a working release must remain with a particular OS version, I stick with 10.10.5. I spent nearly half a year on 10.10.0 using the only known version of the Nvidia Web Drivers which worked for my PNY GTX 960, before they released a properly working graphics driver version for 10.10.5. Take this with a grain of salt, for I see you're not looking to purchase a newer PC-based video card.


For you to use more than 32GB of RAM on your Mac Pro 2,1, you must be running a 64-Bit Kernel. If you are running any OS up to 10.7.5, the included 32-bit EFI would force you to boot into a 32-Bit Kernel (I think that's how it is), therefore, rendering anything above 32GB totally and utterly useless. Then again, my explanation may be marred, for the sake that I used Leopard on a G5 for 7 years, and jumped right to OS X Yosemite on an older Mac Pro. Either way, I know that a 32-Bit Kernel limitation would result in a 32GB ram limit. Using any OS after 10.7.5 would force you to boot into a 64-Bit Kernel, even if using a modded 32-bit EFI, since the older EFI was dropped starting on OS X Mountain Lion, hence, why 2007 Mac Pros cannot "officially" support 10.8+.


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