Junk mail filtering continues after Enable Junk Mail Filtering is unchecked.

I don't want Mail on El Capitan to filter any mail to the Junk folder. I unchecked Enable Junk Mail Filtering. I have restarted Mail since unchecking filtering. I have rebooted since unchecking filtering. Junk mail filtering continues as it did when the Enable Junk Mail Filtering box was checked. The only difference is that it now allows junk through and doesn't mark it as junk. It only filters to Junk random emails from previous senders. Moving filtered emails from previous senders to the Inbox does not train the filter to allow that sender. Rules don't affect junk mail filtering. For some senders, I kept adding rules telling Mail to put that sender's mail in Inbox never worked. Those senders' email always go to junk.


Junk mail filtering has, by and large, been a failure, so I want to turn it off. How do I turn off junk mail filtering so that it is actually turned off?


Thank you,


James

iPhone 6, iOS 9.0.2, Macbook Pro 2012 OS 10.10.5

Posted on Apr 3, 2016 11:40 AM

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Apr 3, 2016 7:15 PM in response to James at 118

Have you tried to log into your IX Web hosting email server to check if these messages are in the junk or spam folder there? You wouldn't be the first person that I have helped who believed that their hosting service was not filtering but in fact was.


If Mail gets messages from your ISP and they are already marked as junk they will appear in the junk folder. You should be able to disable that by disabling the option "Trust junk mail headers in messages".


Since you have unchecked the option "Enable junk mail filtering" in Mail, try clicking the "Reset..." button at the bottom of Mail -> Preferences -> Junk.

After clicking the "Reset..." button you will probably need to disable junk mail filtering again.

Apr 3, 2016 2:06 PM in response to Duane

Thank you for replying.


The email account that seems affected is my primary address with a hosting service (IX Web Hosting) I use for a couple sites and for associated email accounts. I POP their server and don't use webmail. There's no JUNK labeling or flagging that I know of. Emails filtered to Junk don't have any pattern I can see. The filter seems to not like my bank. Those usually go to junk. Today a person I've emailed with a few times over years was junked. Most of my email gets through. Just sometimes not.


But nothing should go to junk regardless of the filter's opinion: I have filtering unchecked. There should be no filter, and that's what I want to do: disable it entirely.


I really appreciate your help. Often I don't think to check junk, and sometimes important things end up there.

Apr 3, 2016 7:21 PM in response to Duane

Thank you, Duane. My host's webmail (Horde) doesn't show any spam folder. One of the domains that persistently goes to Junk in Mac Mail was actually in my webmail whitelist. Perhaps there is confusion there, so I deleted that domain from the whitelist. I feel foolish about the rest button. I should have investigated that. I reset and restarted and will wait to see what results.


Thank you again for your attention. You've been very helpful.


James

Apr 25, 2016 6:23 AM in response to Duane

Hi Duane,


I waited a while to see how the junk filter would respond to changes after I turned it off and erased its memory. It kept filtering according to no logic I could see. So I turned it back on, deleted the filters I had created while trying to manage it, and started retraining it. It still puts things in Junk for no apparent reason, but it seems to do that only once per sender. After I move an email from that sender to the Inbox, I think it always allows mail from that sender. So there's no turning it off, but I've got something workable. Thank you for your help. If it turns out it's still junking email from approved senders, I'll write in again.


Thank you,


James

Jul 21, 2016 8:29 AM in response to Duane

Duane - Definitely not. I accidentally fat-fingered a friend's and family member's emails as junk, and now their email is always marked as junk - despite resets, turning junk off, identifying it as not junk, getting into the advanced settings and establishing conditions that should prevent it, etc.


There is no harm here, but it is driving me slightly nuts.

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