skierrob2

Q: iPhone SE Bluetooth issues

I have a new iPhone SE and have so far paired it to a 2014 BMW 328i and a 2011 Kia Optima and a 2015 Kia Santa Fe. In all cases, I have terrible quality bluetooth call reception... the audio while on a phone call is extremely scratchy and distorted.

 

If I pair an iPhone 6S to each of these vehicles (same iOS version - 9.3.1), I do NOT experience these issues and calls are clear.

 

When I use the iPhone SE to make phone calls outside of Bluetooth, I have no issues and calls are clear.

 

This bluetooth issue on my iPhone SE does NOT impact Bluetooth music streaming. Only sounds scratchy / distorted with phone calls.

 

Apple, so far, is blaming the vehicle manufacturers despite there being multiple vehicle models and brands involved.

 

BMW and Kia state this must be an Apple problem.

 

Apple Genius bar is absolutely no help -- they state they can't report "software issues" to Apple and are only able to replace bad iPhones.

 

I'm at a complete loss as to how to get this to Apple's attention so they can fix the issue.

 

For now, I don't know what to do. All I know is that Bluetooth audio is very important to me in California since it is illegal to use your phone except in a hands free manner.

 

Anyone know how we can get this information to someone at Apple that can actually do something about it?

 

Robert

Posted on Apr 4, 2016 5:27 PM

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  • by Ross_H_D,

    Ross_H_D Ross_H_D Apr 11, 2016 2:09 PM in response to ianrm57
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    Apr 11, 2016 2:09 PM in response to ianrm57

    Would you mind if we keep the thread on the topic at hand? Maybe start a new thread to compare the devices? This was we can all stay informed as things change.

     

    Thanks,

    Ross

  • by mckinneym,

    mckinneym mckinneym Apr 11, 2016 2:16 PM in response to skierrob2
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    Apr 11, 2016 2:16 PM in response to skierrob2

    Just chatted with Brian at Apple Support and can add a few tidbits.  They are definitely aware of the situation and I got an assurance that we wouldn't be left hung out to dry.  For the record: iPhone SE 16GB, 2007 BMW 335i and 2006 BMW 325i.  Same issues as everyone else.  The only way I can get even remotely intelligible incoming voice is if the person speaks very very softly.  It's as if there is some pre-amp that is totally maxed out and the voice signal from the other party is being terrible over-amplified when being sent to the BT unit.  Maybe the guy who mastered the Imagine Dragon's album did the BT!

     

    Here are a few pertinent tidbits from the chat.  I've edited out some pointless stuff.

    BrianI have been able to confirm what you have basically informed me. We have had a number of complaints of this issue.  Right now this is currently under investigation, so the boards were on to something.

    Me: I guess I'm just looking for a little guidance. I love the phone and am willing to wait for a bit for a fix, but I'd hate to let the return window pass and then be told that there is nothing that can be done.  Similarly, I'd hate to pay more for a form factor I don't want or for an older phone.

    Brian: I can definitely understand that concern. I am confident your window won’t pass and if it did, we would not leave you hanging.

    Me: You guys have always been great to deal with, but it's nice to hear.

    Brian: I ask that you bear with us if possible as we are working tirelessly to ensure you have the best iPhone.

    Me: OK. I'll sit tight and wait for an update.

    Brian: We are on top of it and will be working to get it as soon as possible.

    Me: Great.

    Brian: If you need anything or we get close to your time, please chat us back to ensure you are fully updated!

  • by Tunnezza,

    Tunnezza Tunnezza Apr 11, 2016 2:54 PM in response to akordion
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    Apr 11, 2016 2:54 PM in response to akordion

    akordion wrote:

     

    We as users pretty much have 2 options:

     

    1) Return the device, then re-buy it once the issue is cleared

    2) Wait for it to get fixed via Software update(as mentioned that is shouldn't be hardware issue)

     

    I am opting for #2 and just hope that Apple will have a quick turnaround in rectifying this issue.

     

    I agree, as I was waiting for this 4 inch phone (others are too big for me) and I think that, except for this issue, it fits perfectly my needs. Sounds to be a software issue, just like a wrong volume settings, and I'm glad you all are telling us Apple is aware of the problem. We'll see, hopefully soon!

  • by dj_crom,

    dj_crom dj_crom Apr 11, 2016 3:16 PM in response to Tunnezza
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    Apr 11, 2016 3:16 PM in response to Tunnezza

    Hi,

       same problem here with  Iphone SE 64Gb and 2012 VW Passat ....phone calls are very distorted ..overboosted sound...

  • by Gogwwk,

    Gogwwk Gogwwk Apr 11, 2016 4:33 PM in response to dj_crom
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    Apr 11, 2016 4:33 PM in response to dj_crom

    Here are some observations on my SE I wanted to share earlier:

     

    I tested the SE Bluetooth connectivity with all the Bluetooth devices I own until I dug up my old Plantronics M25 few days ago and that works flawlessly with the SE. The clarity was really good. I repeatedly tried with the other 7-8 Bluetooth headsets and they had distortions including Entune on Toyota Corolla.

     

    I seriously feel that SE supports only a specific set of Bluetooth profiles like someone previously mentioned earlier on this thread. I already logged this information with the Apple Support/Engineers.

    I am just wondering if anyone has any similar experiences with Bluetooth specifications as same as this. Here are some more info on the Bluetooth headset from the web:

     

    Plantronics: M25

    Bluetooth Version Bluetooth v3.0

    Bluetooth Profiles Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP),

    Hands-Free (HFP) Profile 1.6 and Headset (HSP) Profile 1.2

  • by mckinneym,

    mckinneym mckinneym Apr 11, 2016 4:35 PM in response to skierrob2
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    Apr 11, 2016 4:35 PM in response to skierrob2

    I will add one more thing. After reading someone's suggestion to turn LTE voice off, I can confirm that that, while not eliminating the problem, it certainly made it far better. Why that would matter is a mystery, but it went from completely unintelligible to usable and only slightly annoying.  It is certainly good enough for me to try and wait for a solution.

  • by wdinoz,

    wdinoz wdinoz Apr 11, 2016 4:49 PM in response to Gogwwk
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    Apr 11, 2016 4:49 PM in response to Gogwwk


    I went to Apple Store on Sunday after having been there on previous Wednesday. They seemed to take the issue a little more seriously and took detailed notes. I also was told that If the issue hadn't been resolved in a few months then I would be able to return the phone.

    With regard to mckinneym's post, I was walking past the BOSE store on way out of shopping centre and tried their wireless headset. They worked extremely clearly with no distortion. I also just  received a new headset with ver 4.1 Bluetooth in mail today and they are also clear and undistorted. Unfortunately my old headset BTH-068 and 2010 BMW 3 series are not clear and are distorted. As mentioned in previous posts when the person talks softly and clearly it is understandable.

  • by jmcjmcbr,

    jmcjmcbr jmcjmcbr Apr 11, 2016 8:00 PM in response to wdinoz
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    Apr 11, 2016 8:00 PM in response to wdinoz

    wdinoz, thanks for the great information. It's nice to hear that they took detailed notes, and that it may be possible to return the phone after a longer period of time if the issue persists. I, too notice very little distortion when the other party speaks softly.

     

    My new iPhone SE (64 GB, space gray) has the Bluetooth distortion issue, too, when tested on my office Plantronics headset and 2014 Toyota Highlander. If the other call participant hears distortion, it seems to be less than what I am hearing on my end. Land line calls seem to have less, or no, distortion, oddly enough, though my sample size is admittedly small.

     

    Apple does not have alert notes on it yet, says the senior engineer I spoke with, though they did eventually discover that it is a "known issue." They are under the impression that some SE units work fine. Does anyone have an iPhone SE that does NOT have a Bluetooth distortion issue? [It's kind of like asking a class to... "Raise your hand if you're not here!"]

     

    Also... does the power button rattle on every SE, or just some?

  • by monroerr,

    monroerr monroerr Apr 11, 2016 8:39 PM in response to jmcjmcbr
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    Apr 11, 2016 8:39 PM in response to jmcjmcbr

    I'm not sure why everybody is thinking it the car's problem. I have used every model iPhone with this car up through my current 5S with no bluetooth problem. The SE was an immediate problem on calls via bluetooth. All speech is unintelligible. I go back to the 5s and again no problem. There is clearly something wrong with the phone or the operating system version. BTW, I upgraded the version of IOS as soon as the phone was activated as it suggested to do so. I too opened a ticket and requested a call back from Apple just to have a ticket when it comes time to recall the phone. The complication is that I purchased the phone directly from AT&T this time so clearly it will have to involve them as well.

  • by Tunnezza,

    Tunnezza Tunnezza Apr 11, 2016 9:50 PM in response to wdinoz
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    Apr 11, 2016 9:50 PM in response to wdinoz

    wdinoz wrote:

     


    (...) I also was told that If the issue hadn't been resolved in a few months then I would be able to return the phone (...)

     

     

    I think there would be two cases:

     

    1) Issue will be addressed by software update I hope ASAP

    2) If a hardware fault is the case, a recall campaign is expected; I sincerely doubt that, since almost all SE hardware is present in other iPhones.

    3) If the issue is not solved until the year's warranty (in that case, it should be hardware), I will go to an Apple Store to let the phone be changed.


    I want to share I have always locked phone to 3G network, so no LTE involvement.

  • by dj_crom,

    dj_crom dj_crom Apr 11, 2016 10:11 PM in response to jmcjmcbr
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    Apr 11, 2016 10:11 PM in response to jmcjmcbr

    Hi,

        mine too...power button rattle if I shake it (Iphone SE 64 Gb)...i think this new Iphone has poor quality...

  • by dj_crom,

    dj_crom dj_crom Apr 11, 2016 10:19 PM in response to monroerr
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    Apr 11, 2016 10:19 PM in response to monroerr

    For sure is not car's problem...i own iphone 4S and iphone6 ..both work perfect with my 2012 Passat OEM BT ...only  iphone SE has this problem with distorted calls

  • by grantfromhickory,

    grantfromhickory grantfromhickory Apr 11, 2016 10:52 PM in response to skierrob2
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    Apr 11, 2016 10:52 PM in response to skierrob2

    Thank god my 5s hasn't sold on Craigslist, my SE is packed up and ready for return tomorrow to Verizon.  I can't wait to pay them a $35 restocking fee for Apple's mistakes.  Thanks Apple!

  • by adprisoner,

    adprisoner adprisoner Apr 12, 2016 12:12 AM in response to skierrob2
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    Apr 12, 2016 12:12 AM in response to skierrob2

    I have the same problems with Peugeot 208... volume,distortion,terrible quality.

  • by pike2k,

    pike2k pike2k Apr 12, 2016 2:27 AM in response to skierrob2
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    Apr 12, 2016 2:27 AM in response to skierrob2

    I reported this issue 5 days ago at Swedish Apple Support and then issue was quite unknown. Today Swedish Apple Support just assured me that this problem has the highest attention at Apple Corp. No wonder since so many Americans are returning their devices. Here in Sweden we have 3 years to do the same, if the problem is "built in from factory".

     

    So now the waiting game begins. Will it be a software or hardware issue, who knows...

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