iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) Randomly Restarts Without Errors

My iMac has been randomly restarting itself (about once a day) when it is idle. Has anyone else experienced the same problem? I found a YouTube video and it is exactly what happened to my iMac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka7lUIeiH5E


I witnessed it once -- the computer was on (not sleeping) with the display off, nothing CPU/GPU intensive running. I suddenly heard a chime and saw that the computer restarted itself. I logged in. There was no pop-up window. I launched Console and did not see anything unusual before the restart.


More information:


  1. The computer is idle when restart happens. Nothing on the computer indicates it overheats. Display is off (due to inactivity) and fan is quiet.
  2. There is no trace of software shutdown, kernel panic or crash. System log shows normal activities and then a sudden BOOT_TIME entry, as if someone yanks the power cord.
  3. It is not a power failure because the computer should be off if it is really a power failure. "Start up automatically after a power failure" is not checked.
  4. It started to happen after I came back from a trip and upgraded my iMac to the latest Mac OS X five days ago. This computer was purchased last October and I had never seen something like this until a few days ago.


The comments on the YouTube video suggest a total replacement, but I'm reluctant to do so if it turns out to be a software/firmware problem that can be fixed. -- The computer is heavy and the nearest Apple Store is not very close, not to mention the backup/restore efforts.


Thanks

iMac with Retina 5K display, OS X El Capitan (10.11.4), Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015

Posted on Apr 7, 2016 6:45 PM

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Posted on May 19, 2017 2:58 AM

Two weeks ago I replaced the RAM in my machine and am now using 4 x "Crucial 16GB PC3L-14900 Unbuffered 204-pin SO-DIMM"


This gives me 64Gb and the machine - touch wood - has been stable ever since.


I managed to run Memtest86 overnight when I first installed the RAM and it completed 4 entire test cycles with no errors. In addition I've been able to complete the "guaranteed crash" that I used, exporting a slideshow from the Photos application with no errors or crashing.


I returned the 4 x "16GB 1867MHZ DDR3 SO-DIMM PC3-14900" from OWC that was installed when I first purchased the machine.


So, at this time, I can confirm that a 27" Late 2015 Retina iMac i7 can run 64Gb of Crucial RAM.


Hope this helps someone else...

Onno

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Sep 3, 2016 10:00 PM in response to Emptynet

Emptynet, how did the power supply replacement work out for you? I found a YouTube link where someone was posting that a Logic Board replacement AND a power supply replacement has fixed his issue. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka7lUIeiH5E) I'm hoping it will fix mine also.


I've tried some other workarounds I've found from other issues (turn off bluetooth - bought $29 wired keyboard&mouse, turned off Safari Web GL) but even after the Logic Board replacement this is still occurring for me. Backing up everything at the moment and handing in my iMac until they fix it again. Hopefully it'll come up with something. It's been almost 6 months now.

Sep 4, 2016 3:56 AM in response to Dyslexicant

Hi Dyslexicant. After the Geniuses replaced the PSU they *then* saw evidence of issues with the graphics part of the MLB, so that got replaced too. However, during the repeated assembly / disassembly the hard drive connector was damaged, so that *also* got replaced. I finally got the machine back in my hands yesterday, so I've not had time to know if it's completely sane yet. I will monitor for the next month or so and either post an all clear or any further weirdness. I have 90 days warranty on the current crop of replacements.]

Cheers, Mike

Sep 6, 2016 2:14 PM in response to Jeremy Liu

So I dropped my Imac on August 30 and explain my situation. He ran a program to check if there was a hardware issue. The results showed no damage to the hardware and wanted me to leave the Imac for more testing. After 2 days I got an email to pick up my Imac, I was excited but also confused because the email said they will call me 3-5 days. Only 2 days of testing is not enough thats what I told them when I got to the apple store. They said they could not replicate my problem and there was no hardware issue. I was very frustrated and in a rush so I told them I want to leave it longer in the store for more testing.


After 2 days I got an email saying they have some information for my device. I called the store and they said the same thing. They said there are no signs of hardware issue and could not replicate the random freezing and restarts after leaving the computer on many hours stress testing it. I gave them one more day for testing and decided to call the following day in case they failed to call me. I called september 4 that was a sunday, they told me they were able to repeat my problem. They said its not a hardware problem but a software problem that affects certain Imacs or mac.


They told me I need to wait for apple to update their firmware. Seriously this started happening since updating my system to 10.11.4 and so on. My problem began since march to September, that's a lot of months of random freezes and restarts. So I have my Imac back but the problems are still occurring. Its really making me angry and frustrated when the problem occurs.

Sep 6, 2016 2:58 PM in response to TJ-Alex

I feel your pain.

Mine has been taken in twice to no avail also stating they could not replicate the fault.

It was then picked up and the logic board replaced , they said this had fixed it and sent it back to me, I had it on for 25mins and it was restarting, it had also come back with a different serial number??? So I called them the same day and it was collected the following day. It's now been there 5 weeks. I called them on the second week for an update, they stated they were going to again replace the logic board with regard to the serial number issue but as far as the restarting they had no idea.

I heard from them yesterday after a frustrated email, I bought this imac brand spanking new for work and uni going on 7months ago and haven't had a solid days use out if it, biggest waste of £2000 , and they just don't give a crap.


They have apparently isolated the problem to the ram , so it has been ordered and I'm now waiting for this.

I'll believe it when I see it


Cheers to paying full price for faulty items

Sep 7, 2016 2:43 AM in response to Kylomoo

Over the last 5 days I've tried a few things ( in the effort of making a new TM backup so I can send mine in for repairs again) and I've noticed something...


First of all, I'm trying to get a new Time Machine backup which (after removing and backing up stuff elsewhere to save time - and the fact I ran out of space on external hard drives) has so far taken 4 days to backup 600GB out of 1.6TB, my iMac has not crashed once.


I've had it dimmed overnight and during the day when asleep, kept a video playing on repeat, to not allow it to sleep or anything, but most importantly I bought a wired mouse and keyboard and turned Bluetooth OFF. So far, 4 days straight whilst backing up and no issues.


Prior to this, opening up files with Preview killed it instantly. This was a bug from 10.11.3 so I've read.


I am not game to touch safari or anything else until my TM backup is done, I've got no TM backup currently (it's doing its initial one again). So I'll let you all know what happens once the TM backup is done. Some people did mention Bluetooth being an issue with responsiveness etc. maybe it's something, maybe nothing, but I'll see how things go.


I did have troubles with bluetooth off and it did crash but I believe that was due to the Preview thing, but so far there's no issue in 5 days.

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