iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) Randomly Restarts Without Errors

My iMac has been randomly restarting itself (about once a day) when it is idle. Has anyone else experienced the same problem? I found a YouTube video and it is exactly what happened to my iMac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka7lUIeiH5E


I witnessed it once -- the computer was on (not sleeping) with the display off, nothing CPU/GPU intensive running. I suddenly heard a chime and saw that the computer restarted itself. I logged in. There was no pop-up window. I launched Console and did not see anything unusual before the restart.


More information:


  1. The computer is idle when restart happens. Nothing on the computer indicates it overheats. Display is off (due to inactivity) and fan is quiet.
  2. There is no trace of software shutdown, kernel panic or crash. System log shows normal activities and then a sudden BOOT_TIME entry, as if someone yanks the power cord.
  3. It is not a power failure because the computer should be off if it is really a power failure. "Start up automatically after a power failure" is not checked.
  4. It started to happen after I came back from a trip and upgraded my iMac to the latest Mac OS X five days ago. This computer was purchased last October and I had never seen something like this until a few days ago.


The comments on the YouTube video suggest a total replacement, but I'm reluctant to do so if it turns out to be a software/firmware problem that can be fixed. -- The computer is heavy and the nearest Apple Store is not very close, not to mention the backup/restore efforts.


Thanks

iMac with Retina 5K display, OS X El Capitan (10.11.4), Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015

Posted on Apr 7, 2016 6:45 PM

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Posted on May 19, 2017 2:58 AM

Two weeks ago I replaced the RAM in my machine and am now using 4 x "Crucial 16GB PC3L-14900 Unbuffered 204-pin SO-DIMM"


This gives me 64Gb and the machine - touch wood - has been stable ever since.


I managed to run Memtest86 overnight when I first installed the RAM and it completed 4 entire test cycles with no errors. In addition I've been able to complete the "guaranteed crash" that I used, exporting a slideshow from the Photos application with no errors or crashing.


I returned the 4 x "16GB 1867MHZ DDR3 SO-DIMM PC3-14900" from OWC that was installed when I first purchased the machine.


So, at this time, I can confirm that a 27" Late 2015 Retina iMac i7 can run 64Gb of Crucial RAM.


Hope this helps someone else...

Onno

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Jun 7, 2016 10:24 PM in response to Jeremy Liu

Wow, I have the same iMac 7,1 that most posters have been talking about and perhaps I can make a few suggestions.


I got my imac 27 about 2 months ago. It arrived with 10.11.3 installed, which also was what i was using on the imac i was replacing, so my time machine matched that os.


i ran the update from the mac store for 11.4 and it bricked my machine. Apple support, while they tried, was not able to help and asked me to send it back. Before i put it in the box, i decided to do a full restore from my time machine. So, i rebooted into recovery from my usb rescue disk and wiped the internal drive. I then used the os utilities to do the restore. A few hours later, i had a perfectly great machine.


I made many attempts to get past 11.3 but gave up and tried 11.5 when it came out. Same result, bricked machine.


Back to 11.3, runnning again. I decided to download the combo updater directly (the .dmg file for 11.5), loaded that onto my external drive. Ran the install from there. Now have a stable running imac 27 5k retina running just fine , no problems at all. I did discuss this with apple and i am not the only one who has used this fix. There is something bizarre with their normal installer. It only affects certain machines, i'd like to hear if this works for anyone else. I feel your pain.......

Jun 8, 2016 6:27 AM in response to jevel

Just had another Kernal Panic which is seriously annoying the **** out of me now. That's like well over a dozen now, since I purchased this beautiful looking, powerful piece-of-crap mac in February. That's half a dozen more than the last 6 years with assorted iMacs and laptops.


This time, after powering up Ableton Live and tinkering away on some track the mac became unresponsive, froze for about 30 seconds and then, bang - black screen followed up a few seconds later by the Kernal Panic screen.


There is no doubt about it but this model is a lemon. A bona fide screw-up.


Here's the panic log, if anyone can decipher this:


Anonymous UUID: 7BBA746F-FD61-A6ED-9F8E-689C1811ED17

Wed Jun 8 20:07:01 2016


*** Panic Report ***

panic(cpu 4 caller 0xffffff8003fce5fa): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f86b0440e, type 14=page fault, registers:

CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x000000000000003a, CR3: 0x00000005fdb1815a, CR4: 0x00000000003627e0

RAX: 0xffffff80744b5a00, RBX: 0x0000000000000002, RCX: 0x0000000000000040, RDX: 0x0000000000000000

RSP: 0xffffff8490413800, RBP: 0xffffff8490413820, RSI: 0x0000000000000002, RDI: 0xffffff80744b5a00

R8: 0xffffff8054add800, R9: 0x0000000000000001, R10: 0x00000000000013c0, R11: 0x0000000000800001

R12: 0x0000000000000002, R13: 0xffffff8052250000, R14: 0xffffff80744b5a00, R15: 0xffffff806cff8400

RFL: 0x0000000000010202, RIP: 0xffffff7f86b0440e, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010

Fault CR2: 0x000000000000003a, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x4, PL: 0


Backtrace (CPU 4), Frame : Return Address

0xffffff8490413490 : 0xffffff8003edab12

0xffffff8490413510 : 0xffffff8003fce5fa

0xffffff84904136f0 : 0xffffff8003fec463

0xffffff8490413710 : 0xffffff7f86b0440e

0xffffff8490413820 : 0xffffff7f86b02fd2

0xffffff8490413850 : 0xffffff7f86b0815a

0xffffff8490413870 : 0xffffff7f86b2df3f

0xffffff84904138b0 : 0xffffff7f86b25a91

0xffffff8490413a00 : 0xffffff7f8630e020

0xffffff8490413a30 : 0xffffff7f86b2de2b

0xffffff8490413a50 : 0xffffff7f8630e3ef

0xffffff8490413a80 : 0xffffff7f8631406e

0xffffff8490413ac0 : 0xffffff7f8630c5fe

0xffffff8490413b50 : 0xffffff80044e1d22

0xffffff8490413b80 : 0xffffff80044e299a

0xffffff8490413be0 : 0xffffff80044dfa07

0xffffff8490413d20 : 0xffffff8003f97eb0

0xffffff8490413e30 : 0xffffff8003edf283

0xffffff8490413e60 : 0xffffff8003ec28b8

0xffffff8490413ea0 : 0xffffff8003ed2665

0xffffff8490413f10 : 0xffffff8003fb8dca

0xffffff8490413fb0 : 0xffffff8003fecc86

Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2(205.10)[949D9C27-0635-3EE4-B836-373871BC62 47]@0xffffff7f86308000->0xffffff7f86373fff

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[D8216D61-5209-3B0C-866D-7D8B3C5F33FF]@0xffffff 7f8472c000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[172C2960-EDF5-382D-80A5-C13E97D74880]@0 xffffff7f8528d000

com.apple.AMDRadeonX4000(1.4.2)[EB770DE1-7B50-364F-9198-AE65399F5D67]@0xffffff7 f86af6000->0xffffff7f87130fff

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[D8216D61-5209-3B0C-866D-7D8B3C5F33FF]@0xffffff 7f8472c000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[172C2960-EDF5-382D-80A5-C13E97D74880]@0 xffffff7f8528d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2(205.10)[949D9C27-0635-3EE4-B836-373871BC62 47]@0xffffff7f86308000


BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Live


Mac OS version:

15F34


Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 15.5.0: Tue Apr 19 18:36:36 PDT 2016; root:xnu-3248.50.21~8/RELEASE_X86_64

Kernel UUID: 7E7B0822-D2DE-3B39-A7A5-77B40A668BC6

Kernel slide: 0x0000000003c00000

Kernel text base: 0xffffff8003e00000

__HIB text base: 0xffffff8003d00000

System model name: iMac17,1 (Mac-DB15BD556843C820)


System uptime in nanoseconds: 45119717590294

last loaded kext at 42606349110392: com.apple.driver.AppleTopCaseHIDEventDriver 86 (addr 0xffffff7f87b89000, size 57344)

last unloaded kext at 41207878770643: com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 4.4.5f3 (addr 0xffffff7f8544a000, size 73728)

loaded kexts:

com.parallels.kext.vnic 11.2.0 32581

com.parallels.kext.netbridge 11.2.0 32581

com.parallels.kext.hypervisor 11.2.0 32581

com.parallels.kext.usbconnect 11.2.0 32581

com.apple.driver.AppleTopCaseHIDEventDriver 86

com.apple.driver.AppleHSBluetoothDriver 86

com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 3.0.1

com.apple.filesystems.afpfs 11.0

com.apple.nke.asp-tcp 8.0.0

com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.70

com.apple.driver.AGPM 110.22.0

com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler 2.6.0d0

com.apple.driver.X86PlatformShim 1.0.0

com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0

com.apple.driver.AppleOSXWatchdog 1

com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 124

com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 274.9

com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 274.9

com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsDevicePolicy 3.12.7

com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.6.1

com.apple.kext.AMDFramebuffer 1.4.2

com.apple.driver.pmtelemetry 1

com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.1

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com.apple.AMDRadeonX4000 1.4.2

com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSKLGraphics 10.1.4

com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltIP 3.0.8

com.apple.driver.AppleHV 1

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com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSlowAdaptiveClocking 4.0.0

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com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC 1.7.0

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com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 4.0

com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0

com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8

com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.1

com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 4.0

com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7

com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 163

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com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 4.4.5f3

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Jun 8, 2016 11:21 AM in response to lazy_atom

This is not the same issue most of us here are seeing.


In what seems to be the majority of cases here the computer freezes and then reboots with no kernel panic or any other error message logged in any of the syslogs. In your case you have a kernel panic which should give you some clues as to what is causing your problems.


-KJ


Edit: Forgot a not! 🙂


Edit2: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/96549/kernel-panic-com-apple-iokit-iopc ifamily <- Seems like more users see this on other models as well.

Jun 8, 2016 1:29 PM in response to jevel

Yes, mine never gave any kind of error code or kernel panic, just restarts. Someone suggested going back to 10.11.3 not sure how do to that.

I requested an exchange from Apple but have not heard back from them. I purchased mine at Best Buy in late February on sale and spoke to the manager there yesterday. They cannot take it back but said in this case Apple should exchange all the machines that are randomly restarting - he states that underlying damage to the computer is happening and one restart soon could kill the machine. I noticed mine is running slower and the HD is buzzing. About 50 plus restarts now.


I suggest everyone call Apple - get a supervisor on the phone and demand an exchange. The more of us that do it will move the needle. This is by far the worst machine I have owned - notice I am not referring to it as a computer... because it is not, it is a piece of @#$%.

Jun 9, 2016 6:52 AM in response to jevel

Hi Jevel,


Thanks for your input. I was pointing out that in addition to the random reboots I occasionally get kernel panics and hence that post. If you view an earlier post of mine you might notice that I list a number of other issues that seem to crop up in my case and in many other cases as well.


There seem to be a lot of threads about issues with these Retina iMacs behaving erratically and I apologise if I appear to have somehow hijacked this 'non-kernal-panic' issue but my contention remains that these issues are all somehow linked, whether it is flawed design or lemon-sucky-software.


My mac randomly reboots. Sometimes with kernel panics. Most times without.


I thought that maybe someone here might be able to figure out what might have caused this particular panic, but seeing as I admittedly have no understanding of these logs I do appreciate your belief that somehow, magically, it should make sense to me.


It is exactly that kind of condescending sneering arseholery that makes these forums so annoyingly frustrating for anyone who genuinely wants to partake in getting issues solved. Thanks for your help.

Jun 9, 2016 1:09 PM in response to lazy_atom

I am patiently waiting for the Apple Supervisor to get back to me. I have been requesting strongly that they send me an RMA sticker - I send my Turkey of a machine to them - and they send me out a new unit.


It is the right thing to do for all of us stuck with these Lemons.


Mine also has issues sometimes with the external devices not being seen by the computer. I even had to manually restart a couple of times to get it to see the SuperDrive. It will randomly drop my External HD and I will have to unplug and re-plug in the USB. This never happens on my PC. In fact I have never had a random restart on any PC I have owned, ever.


I think the machine I have has loads of issues besides the obvious one of the random restarts. The random restarts are slowly destroying the machine...

Jun 10, 2016 12:16 PM in response to Jeremy Liu

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015), ElCapitan 10.11.5


Yep, I have the same issue as everyone else. I've been dealing with Apple support for over a month now. I'm on my third tech (the first two just quit responding to emails). We've done 4 different data captures, removed RAM, peripherals – all the same stuff I'd already tried. Apple engineers first brilliant solution was that it was a screensaver issue. Of course it wasn't. Then it must be my Wacom tablet. Only it wasn't. I can't seem to get anywhere with support and, unfortunately, I'm several hours away from an Apple store or service center. My machine crashes every single day, sometimes 3-5 times a day. Which means nearly 100 restarts since I started working with them. Nobody can tell me that won't shorten the lifespan of my machine! I wish I could figure out some way to escalate my ticket but I'll just end up with yet another tech. This is killing my productivity and my business. I agree with other posters here – these machines are lemons and should be replaced.

Jun 13, 2016 7:38 AM in response to jevel

Hello,

I too have this error... However when it does leave a crash report mine shows Machine Check in the report.


I have tried all known attempts to fix this issue nothing seams to work... It will not recover using the recovery mode.


So off to the local Apple Store go... I will keep all informed of what they say. I'm trying now to backup using Target mode.

When I try to backup in safe mode it will restart before the backup is finished.


-BL

Jun 13, 2016 3:25 PM in response to NerbMac

iMac (Retina 5K, 27, late 2015, 4 ghz i7, 16 gb 1867 mhm ddr3, and radeon r9 m395 2048 mb, 500 GB of flash). Update on my iMac. Took it back to the Apple store in Greensboro NC and they replaced the logic board. I have had it home for about 27 hours and so far no reboots. It came back with 10.11.5 already installed. I have restored from my backups yet (will wait about 48 hours) but so far so good. I'll keep you informed.

Jun 13, 2016 4:44 PM in response to Michael M

Please let us know. My machine is exhibiting the same behavior as far as random restarts but not as often as others here. I might see a random reboot maybe once every two to three weeks and the thought of lugging this thing on the subway to the Apple store makes me furious. If it happens one more time, I'll have to open a support call with Apple and schedule an appointment. I'm just surprised Apple is not saying anything about this.....

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