Why does apple slow down old devices?

What does a reply about Macbook batteries have anything to do with iPads or iPhone batteries.

iDevices aren’t Macs.

I don’t follow the logic or relevance of your response here other than your vague statements about battery issues.

shirazigs wrote:

YOU should not upgrade your any OS or iOS. never. never

- keep your first backup forever.

- Record a video form the speed of your new phone, iMac,..., and the application you use to work.

Great advice. Never upgrade - I suppose you are a professional hacker who loves to see people never upgrade their devices with the most current security measures to keep people like you from invading their privacy....

GB

haha. It seems you are Pro with 37367 points. you recognized me at a glance! way to go!

Hey Pro, do you know why my Macbook pro from 2011 is super slow while it was the fastest laptop in the world.

I deleted all my apps and reinstall mac os again but it is still super slow, it takes more than 10 minutes to boot up. I can't work that. It crashes a lot. My iPhone 6+ is so slow. why? can you answer or I'm just a professional hacker?

If you have a problem with your MacBook Pro from 2011, you should post in the MacBook communities or Mac OS community for the Mac OS you are using.

Maybe your Macbook Pro doesn't have enough RAM installed. Newer versions (Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite and newer) need computers with a minimum of 8 GBs of RAM, now, just for the OS, alone!

As far as your iPhone 6+ is concerned, you need to have your iPhone 6+ battery replaced by Apple under Apple’s new iPhone battery replacement plan, that should go into effect VERY SOON and will be in effect until December, 2018.

The iPhone battery replacement price has been reduced from $79 U.S.D. to $29 U.S.D. and is for all iPhone 6 and later iPhone models.

shirazigs wrote:

haha. It seems you are Pro with 37367 points. you recognized me at a glance! way to go!

Hey Pro, do you know why my Macbook pro from 2011 is super slow while it was the fastest laptop in the world.

It is because you have messed it up, so stop laughing and fix it, if you want help fixing it just ask.

The truth is, devices age over time. This causes batteries to degrade and apple is limiting performance for that reason, to ensure the device can actually work without dying after 2 minutes.

As for the macbook, it could be old hardware or some 3rd party software installed. I have a MacBook Pro that is a 2011 model, and it too was really slow a few years back. This was because of new software releases and things I was asking the computer to do, were simply too much for the HDD to handle. Due to this, I installed a SSD and voila, I have a fast computer!

Actually, there is... if you have a backup and download the .ipsw file from the Apple server site. But it likely won’t help anyway because it’s likely due to corrupted files in the OS. Better to full restore to new and see if the issue resides.

They haven't changed anything. Apple has always blocked older versions, going back to the first iPhones almost 11 years ago. Typically when a new version comes out you can still install the immediately previous version for about a week. After that Apple's Activation Server will no longer sign it.

So that you replace your old iPad of course. They've admitted to slowing down iPhones finally! after getting busted. Why would anyone believe they don't do the same with iPads? I feel a huge class action lawsuit is likely in the near future.

Everybody thinks because Apple targeted one iPhone series to code into iOS 11 to slowdown iPhone 6/6S/6S+ models to prevent to thermal shutdown of the phone during peak processing activity for iPhone 6 models that have aging, degrading performing batteries, that Apple has been doing this to ALL iDevices all along.

Not true, Apple has NOT admitted to slowing any other older iPhone/iPod Touch or IPad models.

Apple just coded iOS 11 with code to slow CPU speeds in iPhone 6 model variants to keep them from constantly, consistently shutting down due to older battery performance!

I have and use a handful of iPad models and all of them work very well on their respective iOS versions.

IPad Li-ion batteries are MUCH larger in size, capacity and performance than those found in smaller phones.

iPads do not exhibit slow down issues due to any influence by Apple, the iOS version OR battery issues.

IPad that exhibit slowdowns from various iOS upgrades/updates do so for other reasons!

Stop posting ridiculous comments and fud!

These Apple Support Communities are not free flowing social media conversation communities.

If you do not have a question, advice or solution about a technical issue with an Apple Product, then you should NOT be signing up and posting anything in here!

catn0rth wrote:

So that you replace your old iPad of course. They've admitted to slowing down iPhones finally! after getting busted. Why would anyone believe they don't do the same with iPads? I feel a huge class action lawsuit is likely in the near future.

If you are intending to take part in legal action against Apple anything you say here is fair game to be part of it. Better to post nothing at all.

Faith2105 wrote:

I had the same problem with my iPad but I recently got a new one..

one of my friends said that Apple has discontinued new updates on old iPads.

But I have no idea why😕

Older iDevice hardware cannot handle more recent iOS updates.

So, Apple puts restrictions on what its hardware and software can handle.

Just like any other technology/computing company.

Does NOT mean the devices are NOT still safe to use.

I am STILL using older IPad 1, 2 and 3 models on a regular basis.

My wife is STILL using her IPad 3 on iOS 9.3.5 and I, an IPad 2 on iOS 9.3.5.

IDevices running iOS 9.3.5 is STILL getting daily app updates, but no more OS updates.

Still perfectly fine to use these older devices.

There is little security risk.

I have a two year old iPad Air 32Gb (bought in Canada where they are a LOT cheaper) and have seen it updated through versions 8 (I think it started here), 9, 10 and now 11. On each occasion the performance has degraded due entirely to the changes in OS. I don't keep a lot a data on it - that is not what its for - it still has 25.91Gb free. There are two reasons why updating is necessary:

1. The march of the hackers. All OS's are vulnerable - that is their nature and each update will try to keep us safe. But this comes at a cost - the software is hampered by security.

2. The march of what I call "gee wiz" improvements. This is the rubbish that the manufacturer things we need - more and more emojis, more connectivity, more...

You could avoid updating (although Apple's endless nagging to install the latest is annoying) but this does make the device exposed to new attacks. You have a choice - risk a hack or slowly make your device redundant. The latter is of course preferred and encouraged by companies like Apple and Microsoft. Even the free Linux systems available are not immune - but at least it's free to upgrade them and curiously doesn't age the device. I have a 20 year old Toshiba that originally came with Windows XP installed and it is now happily running Lunux Fedora even faster than it ever ran XP!

This applies to all devices, not just iPads and iPhones.

There are incremental slowdowns for all older iDevices and computers when running newer OSes.

My iPad 2 and 3 models are, probably, running a litle slower on iOS 9.3.5, but overall in these iPads, they are running very well and very smooth with minimal lag or slowdown!

The ONLY issue I have with both the iPad 2 and 3 is restarts and boot up times take a little over 2 minutes to complete.

Once both iPads are running, they run just fine.

No complaints.

I think you may have missed the point. Any device is initially loaded with an OS system that is the cutting edge of design at that time. Subsequent revisions place more demand on the device architecture until it begins to creek. You are partially right in as much that the device can no longer cope - but this is because the OS has been updated beyond the abilities of the device. Hence my view that all updates (for security reasons or whatever) will always make the hardware out of date.

Apple’s move to degrade performance to avoid crashes is something else. The design fault - and it is a fault- is in not making it easy to replace the rechargeable battery. If an android phone battery needs replacing it costs peanuts and the user can do it 2 minutes. If an Apple iPhone needs it the phone must be taken to the shop for experts to put a new expensive battery in. Not good.