Why does apple slow down old devices?

DeadEyeD wrote:

Its too bad that “Devepment” keeps adding “capabilities” to the base OS that continue to put a greater and greater load on the existing h/w that at some point the devices become near unusable !

You either abandoned the platform and move to some other platform or because of the investment in the platform yo7 shell out $$$$ to get a current device !

Are you trying to say that product development is a bad thing. I for one prefer technology to advance.

xmarine wrote:

Well Well Well.... are you sure you want to keep with the whole "Apple is not responsible at all for any product issues or slowdowns due to OS upgrades/updates." statement given what Apple as recently admitted ???

If you are going to respond to somoene's post, you should really pay attention to the date on which it was posted. At the time Michel posted that response, the change that Apple made to throttle devices when necessary to prevent an unexpected shutdown due to the overheating of an older battery was not in place.

So, at that time, the response was correct, appropriate, and accurate.

The pace of technology is difficult to keep up with at times, but in this case, you are referring to a response that is now completely irrelevant to the current state of affairs concerning this issue.

Cheers,

GB

Faith2105 wrote:

I had the same problem with my iPad but I recently got a new one..

one of my friends said that Apple has discontinued new updates on old iPads.

But I have no idea why😕

Older iDevice hardware cannot handle more recent iOS updates.

So, Apple puts restrictions on what its hardware and software can handle.

Just like any other technology/computing company.

Does NOT mean the devices are NOT still safe to use.

I am STILL using older IPad 1, 2 and 3 models on a regular basis.

My wife is STILL using her IPad 3 on iOS 9.3.5 and I, an IPad 2 on iOS 9.3.5.

IDevices running iOS 9.3.5 is STILL getting daily app updates, but no more OS updates.

Still perfectly fine to use these older devices.

There is little security risk.

mkshrevemac wrote:

AV Product is up to date and scans free of viruses and malware and all cleanup procedures have been accomplished

Anti-virus software is a known culprit in slowing down Macs. Delete it and see if that helps. It's not necessary.

Effective defenses against malware and other threats

This is not just applicable to iOS devices (iPod, iPad, MacBook etc). I have been using an iMac for 5 or 6 years starting with Mountain Lion and currenly Sierra. After each so called upgrade this machine has ”slowed down”. It takes longer to start, longer to run apps and longer to shut down. It wasn’t fast to start with (compared with the equivalent Windows based machine) but now it’s excrutiately slow. No amount of resetting SMC and PRAM helps.

apple claim that their policy is to help your device with a degrading Lithium battery, but this doesn’t explain why a mains powered unit is slower. It’s called planned obsolescence.

the best advice I can give is don’t upgrade - it’s not worth the effort.

(Why can’t they fix the capitalisation on new paragraphs)

You need to pay attention to the date of the posts you are responding to. MichelPM's post was from 2016. The throttling logic was not introduced until iOS 10.2.1 as the article you linked indicates. 10.2.1 was introduced in January of this year (2017).

So, the statements were absolutely true at the time they were made.

Cheers,

GB

Where Apple fails ethically in this is that they could have just as easily displayed a pop-up informing the user that the os is reducing performance due to a degrading battery and that the user should consider replacing the battery (and they could even do that and also try to upsell a new device).

I suspect this will be Apple's response, given how this has exploded in the media lately - and by "exploded", I mean it's now fodder for the New York Times, the Washington Post and every other major news outlet.

Edwin, I would recommend that you phone Apple technical support to discuss your concerns with them and have your sister do the same.

Has your sister installed maximum memory in her MacBook? This should help.

Howard

howarduns wrote:

Edwin, I would recommend that you phone Apple technical support to discuss your concerns with them and have your sister do the same.

Has your sister installed maximum memory in her MacBook? This should help.

Howard

Just an FYI - the post you are responding to is almost 2 years old, so I'm fairly certain that the OP has resolved the issue one way or the other 🙂

Cheers,

GB

xmarine wrote:

Well Well Well.... are you sure you want to keep with the whole "Apple is not responsible at all for any product issues or slowdowns due to OS upgrades/updates." statement given what Apple as recently admitted ???

No, that's not exactly what they "admitted" to. Apple under certain circumstances related to battery age, temporarily slows down your phone so that your phone doesn't suddenly turn off.

The 57 Chevy and the pink he fridge kept working and going till you decided you wanted to replace it and when you did you. Could still sell or pass it a family member or friend if it was looked after you have no such choice. Today it is being made for you in eveything we buy in today’s soco

?And -YOU- could have added that Apple didn’t divulge to so consumers the battery issues or their approach to address the battery issues. Had they done so, consumers could have made an informed decision to 1) Buy the Phone, OR 2) Replace the battery. Instead all consumers were told, as I was, your phone is older and you should upgrade!

Everybody thinks because Apple targeted one iPhone series to code into iOS 11 to slowdown iPhone 6/6S/6S+ models to prevent to thermal shutdown of the phone during peak processing activity for iPhone 6 models that have aging, degrading performing batteries, that Apple has been doing this to ALL iDevices all along.

Not true, Apple has NOT admitted to slowing any other older iPhone/iPod Touch or IPad models.

Apple just coded iOS 11 with code to slow CPU speeds in iPhone 6 model variants to keep them from constantly, consistently shutting down due to older battery performance!

I have and use a handful of iPad models and all of them work very well on their respective iOS versions.

IPad Li-ion batteries are MUCH larger in size, capacity and performance than those found in smaller phones.

iPads do not exhibit slow down issues due to any influence by Apple, the iOS version OR battery issues.

IPad that exhibit slowdowns from various iOS upgrades/updates do so for other reasons!

Stop posting ridiculous comments and fud!

These Apple Support Communities are not free flowing social media conversation communities.

If you do not have a question, advice or solution about a technical issue with an Apple Product, then you should NOT be signing up and posting anything in here!

Ruffkutt wrote:

As we've since learned, apparently they ARE intentionally slowing older devices. 😉

So far, NONE of this has been reported by Apple to affect any IPad models.

Gmat27 wrote:

No I don't expect that but I do expect them to cut off the updates that cause my device to come to a crawl before it happens.

You are not required to accept any updates if you feel they will not meet your needs. I grant you, Apple is pretty insistent but it's still possible not to update.