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Why does apple slow down old devices?

I am so upset with apple because i have an iPad 2 that i literally rarely ever used and is pretty much new but yet its so slow. This started after i updated my ipad i hadn't updated my iPad for about 2.5 years and then all of the sudden it just completely slowed down! I am a die hard apple fan i've had everything apple for about a decade because I thought and always believed that they made superior products. But now i am realizing that their products are not made to last! I am not the only one with this problem either my sister has a white apple macbook and same thing has happened to her! Her macbook is horribly slow and just a terribly laptop now she has only had it for about 3 years and it is literally worthless now. i don't get it apple! Why do you do this to your customers! You create nice products that only seemed to be temporary you are ripping us off! Why now i don't even want to buy an iPhone Im trying to look for alternatives! Please answer my question! Does anyone else have this issue with their apple products? This seems so suspicious! I even refuse to update my macbook air because i am afraid apple is going to slow it down!

iPad 2, iOS 9.3.1

Posted on Apr 9, 2016 4:56 PM

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Jun 11, 2017 6:42 PM in response to Gramsgirl

Try using another 3rd party web browser on your iPad 1 and 2.

They might be better coded and better optimised for iOS than Safari for iOS.

Also, make sure both iPad models have sufficient free storage space (maintain approx. 3 to 4 GBs of free storage space).

Here is my list of performance boosting tips for your iPad 2. here.


Slow iPad on iOS 9 or 10


Good Luck!

Jun 12, 2017 7:56 AM in response to NorthTexasRedHead

If it is so easy, why don't you go to work for Apple so you can show them the way. And while you're at it, do the same thing for every other smartphone out there. How far back should you go? iOS 1.1.5?


Get over it. If you want airbags, you can't expect to have them in a Ford Bronco circa 1980.


If you want to let Apple know about your great displeasure regarding this 1st world problem, do so here: Apple - Feedback.


I'm done.


GB

Sep 15, 2017 8:56 PM in response to Hexarmin

We do not have any details on the specs of your computer. We have not information to diagnose the issue. What you need to do is to install a copy of el cap on an external hd. Run and see how it goes. Run

Download etrecheck. Click on the download link at the bottom of the screen.

http://etrecheck.com/


Run etrecheck. Post complete output.


click on the export icon. click on "Copy Report". Paste into your ASC Reply


Using EtreCheck by etresoft, the author

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create a new discussion in el cap discussion.


Your machine is getting a little old to run El Cap.


R

Dec 23, 2017 1:59 PM in response to Phlac

While gazing at one's feet, or oblivious to other real-world surroundings, some

of these 'smart device' users miss out on important details of daily life. As well

as those technical details that may have been considered boring, do apply.


Before the 'pedestrian level of tripping hazard-obvious' lets one know the ground

is approaching, or the sky is falling, etc; these factoids have been known to all.

Or any who would appreciate them ahead of time. Like, prior to buying a device.


re: existing public articles, referenced battery management and replacement.


•iPhone 6s Program for Unexpected Shutdown Issues - Apple Support

•Use Low Power Mode to save battery life on your iPhone - Apple Support

•About the battery usage on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch - Apple Support

•Batteries - Maximizing Performance - Apple


And others. Some which dated back to before this thread, & later ones which

included the older content along with a clearer language to spell it out, again.


My old iPhone 5C with mobie battery, shows signs of aging; and rather than blame

Apple for not supporting the known elements of chemical degradation over time...


I simply know these things are only temporary. In a million years, it may prove to

have been fully insignificant. Compared to a super-novae or close encounter with

giant dwarf star ~ whose path may consume our basic elements in one fell swoop.


In any event...

Good luck & happy trails! 🙂

Dec 28, 2017 5:52 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

I'll beat the dead horse on this, but Apple has come up with a very fair solution to this, which includes iOS allowing the user to determine the "age" of the battery, which varies greatly depending on how you use your iPhone (are you constantly connecting and disconnecting it from usb charging ports at work, in the car or at home all day? That "ages" the battery faster), and making it easier (cheaper) to get a new battery installed:


A Message to Our Customers - Apple


An undisclosed feature was discovered, the mob got angry about how Apple implemented it, and Apple listened. This is why I like Apple.

Dec 29, 2017 7:11 AM in response to Phlac

I like and agree with your post, but there is one statement that you make that should be discussed:


Phlac wrote:

are you constantly connecting and disconnecting it from usb charging ports at work, in the car or at home all day? That "ages" the battery faster

That is not true. What ages the battery is the number of full charge/discharge cycles. A Full cycle is 100% to 0% to 100%. So charging from 50% to 100% is 1/2 of a charge cycle. Charging from 40% to 50% ten times is 1 charge cycle. It's not a good idea to let the battery go to a low value (close to 0%) frequently, because this will reduce the capacity over time, and allowing it to go below 0% (letting it go to 0%, then not charging it immediately) will severely damage the battery.


Apple's new battery guideline is very helpful: iPhone Battery and Performance - Apple Support


This is the first time I have seen mention of increased internal resistance being a factor. It is true of all batteries; a battery degrades by losing electrode surface. But the "dead" electrode surface adds to the battery's internal resistance. That's why a weak car battery can't start a car. I was about to write a user tip about it, but Apple beat me to it.


One attribute that affects this instantaneous power delivery is the battery’s impedance. A battery with a high impedance is unable to provide power quickly enough to the system that needs it. A battery's impedance can increase if a battery has a higher chemical age. A battery’s impedance will temporarily increase at a low state of charge and in a cold temperature environment. When coupled with a higher chemical age, the impedance increase will be more significant. These are characteristics of battery chemistry which are common to all lithium-ion batteries in the industry.

Jan 15, 2018 7:21 PM in response to hollyfromenterprise

There is NO way to revert to a earlier iOS version once you upgrade/update to a new iOS.


Have you tried a hard reset of your iPad by holding down both the Home and sleep/wake buttons simultaneously until your iPad goes to black and restarts with Apple logo, then release the buttons?


In Settings app, General settings panel, turn OFF Background App Refresh.

In Settings app, under General settings, Reset panel, at the right bottom of the list, Reset All Settings.

In Settings app (NOT from the iOS Control Panel) turn OFF Bluetooth when not using any Bluetooth devices.

There is still a Control Panel glitch with turning ON/OFF WiFi OR Bluetooth.


Also, in general, if you want a faster IDevice, on all of my iDevices, I turn off most of the iOS motion graphics eye candy, by simply turning ON Reduce Motion in Settings app, General, Accessibilty settings.



Make sure you aren't running scads and scads of background apps in the iOS 11 Control Panel/App Switcher.

If you are, you need to quit the bulk of these background running apps by tap and hold a finger on an app window in the switcher and slide your finger upwards to quit an app. You should be able to use more than one finger to quit more than one app window simultaneously.


Also, make sure you don’t have scads and scads of active website tabs running in the web browser.

If you do, greatly reduce the amount of active website tabs your web browser.


Also, tap the link below and see/try my other iOS/iDevice performance tips here.


Slow iPad on iOS 9, 10 or 11!


Good Luck to You!

Jun 11, 2017 7:03 PM in response to NorthTexasRedHead

NorthTexasRedHead wrote:


Apple could show their customers who only want to upgrade devices once every 3-4 years some respect by leaving out the latest bells and whistles that slow their machines down and just giving security updates.

What about their customers who want the most advanced technology yesterday? What about their customers who post here within a month or two of a major release asking when the next major release will be out?


NorthTexasRedHead wrote:



Banks and credit cards will often require you update to the latest iOS, in particular if there has been some large hacking event. So yes, security updates are important and older OS's are not supported by some financial institution apps. My bank in particular requires you to update to the latest OS if I want to bank from my phone - if I can't bank from my phone then I might as well have a flip phone.


What does that have to do with Apple? If your financial institution decides to not provide a version of their software that will run on an older Apple device because it is running an older iOS, then how is that Apple's problem? Here's a list of all of the devices that Google no longer (or will shortly no longer) provide any security or other updates for:


  • Nexus 5X: September 2017
  • Nexus 6P: September 2017
  • Nexus 9: October 2016
  • Nexus 5: October 2015
  • Nexus 6: October 2016
  • Nexus 7 (2013): July 2015
  • Nexus 10: November 2014


See any similarities?


GB

Dec 24, 2017 5:01 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

This issue I think has raised a few issues. The Apple customer base is clearly divided into two camps:

  • There are those who bought an Apple device to get work done. They want a stable system that does the job and are not interested in so called enhancements. Apple has consistently ignored this group despite the fact that they usually identify the problems - but the problems are never solved, we simple get an update. This is my group.
  • Then there are those who MUST have the latest version because the additional (pointless) features give them a "high". In this group we have the emoji crowd and those that spend their life "sharing" it. They must accept that continual updating WILL make their h/w obsolete. They are the money makers for Apple. Anyone who has used Apple products must realize that there is a continual development programme which makes devices obsolete.

Someone said earlier that "I for one prefer technology to advance." Continual updating of the software to add "features" is not tech advancement.


Is paying £1000 for an iPhone (in the UK) really good value for money when the battery can't be changed easily when it expires? All batteries fail sooner or later. My Android phone has a removal battery for that very reason and costs less than a tenth the price!


I have used Apple devices now for six years after a long time with Microsoft based PC's. Apple gear is good - but it is spoilt by the process described above. I still have a list of things that Windows did better and some of these items Apple still doesn't do as efficiently.

Feb 14, 2018 6:54 AM in response to Jeremy Photographer

I agree with you Jeremy...


But, the trouble with the IT industry generally (and this goes for both MS and Apple) is two fold:

  1. They have to make a profit by always "enhancing" the product. This means you have to make old hardware redundant by ensuring that the new software degrades performance. Many of us would prefer not to upgrade because the "enhancements" are unwanted and unneeded.
  2. Updates are needed because the software is vulnerable to various forms of criminality and therefore this is used as an excuse to provide the "enhancements" in item 1. Why is software so vulnerable? Because it was never designed (as a complete system) to resist attack.

If security updates were kept separate from "upgrades" we would not have this issue. Eg: Word for Windows 97 would still be a useful and powerful tool and who cares if we can't insert emojis into the text or share it (insecurely) with half the planet! Sorry to use a Windows example but Apple doesn't provide software of that caliber.


I have lost count of the number of PC's (and now Apple equivalents) I have sent to the scrap heap because the software made them redundant. You are right - It is irresponsible to the consumer and the environment. Did they ever have any reputation?

Apr 9, 2016 8:04 PM in response to edwinpc29

There's nothing new in what you are claiming. It has been that way with computers every since they started. Newer software almost without exception makes more demand on resources, but is developed alongside faster hardware. Unless you upgrade your hardware to match the increasing demand of software then actions will seem slower. If you do not want your device to slow down then do not upgrade the software. Of course that has other consequences since you are essentially frozen at features available for the software version you are using. If you can't accept any of these then don't own a computer or device. Your only alternative is to convince a couple of billion people they too should never buy a new computer or be attracted to newer features.

Apr 10, 2016 11:46 AM in response to edwinpc29

The issues with any change in the operating systems, limited resources (hardware not upgradeable)

and time, each have to be measured by the correct perspective. Your iPad2 has some limitations yet

by following the ideas on how to resurrect or restore functions in the post by rccharles should help.


{Regarding an issue your sister may have with performance or other problems, she should post about

that item by itself and have her include an Etrecheck report and also read on that site what it can help

the user to do... That overall information would be helpful to those who may see some problems in it.

Here's a link about Etrecheck; the site has more info & download link: http://etrecheck.com/#about}


Sorry that an upgrade in iOS has left your fairly recent (yet aging) iPad2 sluggish, too.

Good luck in restoring your iPad2... 😐

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