Why does apple slow down old devices?

Phlac wrote:

The current power management solution is silent and model specific, not age specific.

It IS age specific. It is all about the “age” of the battery measured in remaining capacity,

it it is also about the shutdown issue, which is caused by a degraded battery.

It it is about anything and everything that is a symptom of a failing battery. It is an alternative to random shutdowns and jumping state of charge, and what it does is extend the useful life of the phone as determined by the battery. The choice is to replace the battery or use the phone in a useful, but degraded mode.

I still have a list of things that Windows did better and some of these items Apple still doesn't do as efficiently.

Start another thread with this list and I'm sure a lot of folks would respond with potential solutions.

My biggest one would be single click to run an app. Get rid of this double click thingie.

R

Apple should allow users to downgrade OS version if there is a noticeable slow-down in performance -- especially if it makes the device un-useable. Case in point, when I upgraded my daughter's old iPhone 4 to iOS 7, everything slowed to a crawl and now she could only use it to play music, nothing else. Too painfully, annoyingly slow to run apps or go on the Internet, etc. Apple shouldn't brick or make useless older devices as they are very expensive and ought not to be crippled.

It does slow down the device for all of the time, eg. when fully or near fully charged performance should be as before.

Read more here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/12/19/apple-does-slow-older-iphones-n ot-reason-think/

Apple is often accused of deliberately slowing down older iPhones, with conspiracy theorists claiming it is a ruse to force customers to upgrade.

Now, it appears that the theory is true, at least in part. Apple admitted that it deliberately limits the performance of iPhones when a battery ages, to stop them shutting down without warning.

It added the "feature" to the iPhone 6, 6S and SE in 2016 in a software update last year and the iPhone 7 was updated earlier this month, with the release of iOS 11.2. New devices will have their processing power zapped in the future, Apple confirmed.

“Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices,” an Apple spokesman said.

Older iPhone batteries struggle to supply the required maximum current needed to power the phone processor at full speed, causing it to shut down unexpectedly, Apple confirmed. In some cases, customers reported powering off even when a phone had 40 per cent battery left.

By slowing the performance, the phone does not need the maximum current, and will no longer switch off without warning.

While smartphone battery capacity decreases as it ages, processing power is not meant to be affected in the same way.

Edwin, I would recommend that you phone Apple technical support to discuss your concerns with them and have your sister do the same.

Has your sister installed maximum memory in her MacBook? This should help.

Howard

howarduns wrote:

Edwin, I would recommend that you phone Apple technical support to discuss your concerns with them and have your sister do the same.

Has your sister installed maximum memory in her MacBook? This should help.

Howard

Just an FYI - the post you are responding to is almost 2 years old, so I'm fairly certain that the OP has resolved the issue one way or the other 🙂

Cheers,

GB

Well Well Well.... are you sure you want to keep with the whole "Apple is not responsible at all for any product issues or slowdowns due to OS upgrades/updates." statement given what Apple as recently admitted ???

Noticed this slowdown on my 5s, was ok before the iOS 11 update then it slowed down, nothing else has changed. This is now a spare phone so not too bothered but the article only lists iPhones 5SE & above as being affected.

xmarine wrote:

Well Well Well.... are you sure you want to keep with the whole "Apple is not responsible at all for any product issues or slowdowns due to OS upgrades/updates." statement given what Apple as recently admitted ???

No, that's not exactly what they "admitted" to. Apple under certain circumstances related to battery age, temporarily slows down your phone so that your phone doesn't suddenly turn off.

The 57 Chevy and the pink he fridge kept working and going till you decided you wanted to replace it and when you did you. Could still sell or pass it a family member or friend if it was looked after you have no such choice. Today it is being made for you in eveything we buy in today’s soco

Yes, but it always would perform as a 57 Chevy, not as a 2017 BMW. And to keep that 57 Chevy running you would have spent many times the cost of a BMW over its life, as well as many times the cost of the BMW in gas. So it's a really poor analogy. An iPhone will also keep going as long as there is a network to support it (which excludes the "classic" iPhone) if you pay to have it maintained. As I don't know what an he fridge is I can't comment on it. But the 1982 Amana fridge I had is still running for its new owner, although again, the energy it use would have paid for replacements several times over. And it still only works today not quite as well as it did when new.

Bwahahahahaha! Funniest idea I've heard all year. The largest company in the world with the largest cash position of any company in the world. You're either joking, or you know nothing about finance or economics. If Apple never made another product and just invested all of their cash they would still grow richer every year. Apple currently has $216 BILLION in cash. That's more than many countries.

And where did you hear that Apple was "loosing" sales? Sales of the iPhone X are below predictions, but they are still selling millions of them. 6 million alone on Black Friday weekend. That's $6 BILLION in sales for one weekend. Yes, they hoped it would be 8 million sales. But it was far from zero. And the 8/8+ are still selling as fast as they can make them.

xmarine wrote:

Well Well Well.... are you sure you want to keep with the whole "Apple is not responsible at all for any product issues or slowdowns due to OS upgrades/updates." statement given what Apple as recently admitted ???

If you are going to respond to somoene's post, you should really pay attention to the date on which it was posted. At the time Michel posted that response, the change that Apple made to throttle devices when necessary to prevent an unexpected shutdown due to the overheating of an older battery was not in place.

So, at that time, the response was correct, appropriate, and accurate.

The pace of technology is difficult to keep up with at times, but in this case, you are referring to a response that is now completely irrelevant to the current state of affairs concerning this issue.

Cheers,

GB

In reference and relevance to the irrelevant:

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Someone told me my "...ship would come in."

Optimistic, young and naive, I believed for a 
time.

Later on, the adult realization hit me.


My ship already 'came in.' 


~ It was named the Titanic!😝

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{PS: my iPhone 5c doesn't mine the change of time.

He said the other day, just find me a nice tupperware

when i expire, to keep me fresh and dry.}

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My iPhone 5 also seems to be as perky as ever. I guess we are just lucky or something. And you won't even need the tupperware....My original iPhone lives in its box in my side table. I charge him up every now and then for the fun of it, and he's as happy as a clam! My iPad 1 sits atop my side table, and he is in a nice case, and is always plugged in (except when I'm charging someone else), so he stays nice and warm 😀

GB